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HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

I’m just telling you to fuck off in a more polite way, Mr. Nonconfrontational.

You are just inventing straw men to attack at this point, after ignoring just about everything else I said (save for the parts that helped you pivot to your propaganda pitch).

You’ve done a +1 in the bucket of “Should I just block lemmy.ml?” Like 90% of the socialists I talk to from there end up being tankies and it’s exhausting, not to mention erodes my faith in socialism. As I said, nothing you’ve said here has been in good faith.

Why do you argue in bad faith? I have no idea. Maybe you’re secretly anti-socialist and want to make socialists look dumb.

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gandalf_der_13te@feddit.org ⁨4⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
soo, just to chime in, i get your whole point, and i agree with you. i’m just gonna propose another explanation why the other user behaves like a tankie:

the collapse of the sovjet union scarred many people psychologically. in its core, the sovjet union was a noble project with a bad execution, and it’s like, if you’re working for something, and can’t accept that it fails. it’s like the love of your life leaves you or sth, some people never get over it. some of these people then think that it was because of america’s constant military threats etc that made the sovjet union fail. anyways, these people then end up thinking “well, if we had more military power, then we’d have been successful”. and that drives them to become tankies.

meanwhile, the sovjet union failed for complex geopolitical reasons that had basically nothing to do with military power. so the tankies are wrong, but they’re wrong because they’re deeply hurt themselves, not because they’re inherently evil people.
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- HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  Oh I don’t think they’re evil. I stated very clearly that I have no idea what’s going on in their head.
  
  All I know is the effect they have on others, which is negative on average, and as a result - harmful to the spread of goodness in humanity.
  
  It’s like the kid down the street who was beat up by some black kids and is forever racist because of it. I can intellectualize that he’s deeply hurt by his experience, and I can try to talk him out of being racist, but I’m still going to dislike him and try to block him from affecting others with his poison.
  
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  - Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Lmfao. Y’all are fucking sick.
    
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- Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨3⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  The USSR defeated the literal Nazis lol. God forbid they get a bit of praise in their attempt at socialism. Meanwhile, permanent war from America across the globe.
  
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Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
That sucks, or is good. I’m not reading your drivel. Can’t wait for your country to collapse, either way.

Death to America.

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- HCSOThrowaway@lemmy.world ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
  K, whatever.
  
  Enjoy making socialism - and the world - worse. I’ll continue to try to make it better.
  
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  - Nonconfrontational@lemmy.ml ⁨6⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago
    Lmao, thank you for ridding me from you!
    
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