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Comment on Why in America is .08 the legal limit for drunk driving? How come it's not an even 0.10? Who decided at what level being drunk starts? Then 4 beers of 12oz's is 0.08 why is it that small?

Karmanopoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago

Mother Against Drunk Driving decided all of it.

Nobody can defend drunk driving, but the fact you give up your rights during a stop should make you angry.

If you get charged with any other crime you are allowed to talk to a lawyer except in drunk driving. You are tried and convicted on the side of the road and the evidence they use to convict you (your breath) isn’t preserved… it just blows away in the wind.

Nobody should be drunk driving but we still need to change the way we handle suspected drunk driver’s

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Hiro8811@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
I’m pretty sure that if they find a person drunk they have to take that person to a hospital to get a blood test and accurately gauge the alcohol percentage, the test also stands as proof.

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- Karmanopoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  If you were accused of murdering and taken to the hospital for a blood test with a lawyer present people would lose their minds
  
  But suspected drunk drivers it happens all the time without a lawyer present
  
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  - healthetank@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    How many other crimes are directly defined with a time-sensitive impairment?
    
    If they allowed you to both call a lawyer and wait for them to arrive you could arrange for your lawyer to be a) 2+hrs away, b)alseep or c)any other time delaying tactic.
    
    I agree I don’t like the status quo, but if you have a reasonable alternative that still allows them to catch people who are drunk driving, I’m all ears.
    
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    Karmanopoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Miranda Rights give you the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney
    
    These rights go out the window because if you exercise them they simply charge you refusing to comply which carries the same penalty as a drunk driving conviction
    
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  - Hiro8811@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    Because these are two different things, if you’re accused of murder they can use whatever you say against you, but in case of drunk driving it doesn’t matter what you say, what matter is the results of the test.
    
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    Karmanopoly@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    The courts have ruled we have the right to remain silent and the right to an attorney.
    
    If you do that they then simply charge you with another crime.
    
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