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justlookingfordragon@lemmy.world āØ11ā© āØmonthsā© agoExactly this worked best for me back in the day ;) Iām German and while we have some mandatory English classes, theyāre ā¦well ā¦ not good. Blunt, boring, 1:1 translations of German sentences, and at least the teacher I had first also had a VERY thick German accent, pronouncing stuff WAY too harsh (āZis is nott how yoo shoold zound when zpeeking inglish for forks zake!ā) so other than learning a few basics, the lessons werenāt at all useful to me.
ā¦but Iāve been an avid fan of the Zelda franchise even back then so I decided to play Ocarina of Time in English after a first German playthrough. Barely understood the dialogue at first, started to recognize certain keywords after a few days, and once I was halfway through the game my brain kinda switched to āEnglish modeā and I actually learned words and grammar in a natural way instead of trying to force myself to understand what the hell a āsingular past tense adverbā is.
Long story short, school tried to teach me how to translate German thoughts into English sentences before speaking them out loud. Games, movies, books and music taught me to THINK in English so I wouldnāt need to translate my thoughts first.
The same way Iām currently trying to learn Spanish by the way, which already works way better than any classes ever did.
Scraft161@iusearchlinux.fyi āØ11ā© āØmonthsā© ago
Not just you, your brain is wired to pick up language, how did you learn your first one?
I can attest that English classes here arenāt great either (although most people here do speak English as a second or third language)
This is a known side effect of premature output (writing/speaking before you feel comfortable doing so), you donāt just listen to whatās around you, you primarily listen to yourself and pronunciation differs between languages, this premature output becomes toxic input for your brain which then uses that from then on (you can try and get rid of it; but it is really hard to do)
Yup, thatās natural understanding for you. When you speak a language you donāt care about the rules; you should instinctively know them.
As for my issue with Duolingo: it ignores the amount of time it takes to properly acquire a language, if I were to split up all the time I spent watching english youtube into 5 minute chunks itād take me well over 15 years (and thatās just accounting for the initial 4 month span; Iāve learned more things after as I naturally used the language). Combine that with the fact it throws established research on this topic to the wayside to push the school-based one which we know goes against the natural way in which we learn. I found a great blog post online about this, while it mostly revolves around learning Japanese; the core principles apply to learning pretty much any language. The beginning of the post does sum the entire thing up pretty well though:
There are some really good parts in that blog that apply to any language; but a lot of it is geared towards Japanese specifically.