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realcaseyrollins@hilariouschaos.com 2 weeks agoWork is really picking up, so I don’t have the time to tear down all of the arguments.
If your argument, though, in regards to Jews not being the original owners of the land, is that they weren’t there first, so they shouldn’t be there, that’s just silly. “Finder’s Keepers” is not an internationally recognized determinant of the ownership of land or property, nor who should live there. Again, when there’s a war (as there have been between the Jews and Palestinians), you lose the rights to your land. If that’s “stealing land”, it is what it is.
Generally, I don’t spend time engaging with “well they were there first” arguments because they are irrelevant, but I figured a reply (unfortunately short, due to the amount of time I have on my hands) was worth it in this case.
I prolly won’t have the time to follow up with this convo, but I wish you the best. Happy Friday!
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today 2 weeks ago
You were making the “they were there first” argument, I was using your logic, specifically, as you set the tone of the conversation and the arguments used therein.
And no, this is not between Jews and Palestinians. There are more Jewish palestinians than Jewish white people. Jews have lived in Palestine continuously since the kingdom of Israel fell.
This isn’t about religion. This is about white invaders coming in, declaring they were the real jews, and started doing genocide on stolen land no one, including the Jews already living there, wanted them.