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Comment on Shopworker sacked for tackling suspected bacon thief

No. People trying to maximise profit from basic human requirements is why you need to get cheese taken out of a plastic cage.

Not the poor trying to feed themselves.

Get a grip of your priorities. The management and executives of Tesco, Sainsburys, M&S, Asda, Lidl, Aldi, etc are doing just fine, unlike the people having to risk a criminal record, arrest, public shame, and in some cases physical assault for £4 worth of bacon.

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Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
It’s cheaper not to use the cage. But they do because luxury goods keep getting nicked. It’s the expensive products that go in a cage first. You don’t need brandy, yet that ends up in a cage.

I actually don’t want to live in a society rife with theft.

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- Zombie@feddit.uk ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  You already live in a society rife with theft. You’re just propagandised from birth not to see it.
  
  Yes, you are right: the law forbids theft.
  
  If I should steal something from you, you can call a policeman and have me arrested. The law will punish the thief, and the government will return to you the stolen property, if possible, because the law forbids stealing. It says that no one has a right to take anything from you without your consent.
  
  But your employer takes from you what you produce. The whole wealth produced by labor is taken by the capitalists and kept by them as their property.
  
  The law says that your employer does not steal anything from you, because it is done with your consent. You have agreed to work for your boss for certain pay, he to have all that you produce. Because you consented to it, the law says that he does not steal anything from you.
  
  But did you really consent?
  
  When the highwayman holds his gun to your head, you turn your valuables over to him. You ‘consent’ all right, but you do so because you cannot help yourself, because you are compelled by his gun.
  
  Are you not compelled to work for an employer? Your need compels you, just as the highwayman’s gun. You must live, and so must your wife and children. You can’t work for yourself; under the capitalist industrial system you must work for an employer. The factories, machinery, and tools belong to the employing class, so you must hire yourself out to that class in order to work and live. Whatever you work at, whoever your employer may be, it always comes to the same: you must work for him. You can’t help yourself. You are compelled.
  
  In this way the whole working class is compelled to work for the capitalist class. In this manner the workers are compelled to give up all the wealth they produce. The employers keep that wealth as their profit, while the worker gets only a wage, just enough to live on, so he can go on producing more wealth for his employer. Is that not cheating, robbery?
  
  The law says it is a ‘free agreement’. Just as well might the highwayman say that you ‘agreed’ to give up your valuables. The only difference is that the highwayman’s way is called stealing and robbery, and is forbidden by law. While the capitalist way is called business, industry, profit making, and is protected by law.
  
  But whether it is done in the highwayman’s way or in the capitalist way, you know that you are robbed.
  
  The whole capitalist system rests on such robbery.
  
  The whole system of law and government upholds and justifies this robbery.
  
  That’s the order of things called capitalism, and law and government are there to protect this order of things.
  
  Do you wonder that the capitalist and employer, and all those who profit by this order of things, are strong for ‘law and order’?
  
  But where do you come in? What benefit have you from that kind of ‘law and order’? Don’t you see that this ‘law and order’ only robs you, fools you, and just enslaves you?
  
  ‘Enslave me?’ you wonder. ‘Why, I am a free citizen!’
  
  Are you free, really? Free to do what? To live as you please? To do what you please?
  
  Let’s see. How do you live? What does your freedom amount to?
  
  You depend on your employer for your wages or your salary, don’t you? And your wages determine your way of living, don’t they? The conditions of your life, even what you eat and drink, where you go and with whom you associate, — all of it depends on your wages.
  
  No, you are not a free man. You are dependent on your employer and on your wages. You are really a wage slave.
  
  The whole working class, under the capitalist system, is dependent on the capitalist class. The workers are wage slaves.
  
  So, what becomes of your freedom? What can you do with it? Can you do more with it than your wages permit?
  
  Can’t you see that your wage — your salary or income — is all the freedom that you have? Your freedom, your liberty, don’t go a step further than the wages you get.
  
  The freedom that is given you on paper, that is written down in law books and constitutions, does not do you a bit of good. Such freedom only means that you have the right to do a certain thing. But it doesn’t mean that you can do it. To be able to do it, you must have the chance, the opportunity. You have a right to eat three fine meals a day, but if you haven’t the means, the opportunity to get those meals, then what good is that right to you?
  
  So freedom really means opportunity to satisfy your needs and wants. If your freedom does not give you that opportunity, than it does you no good. Real freedom means opportunity and well-being. If it does not mean that, it means nothing.
  
  You see, then, that the whole situation comes to this:
  
  Capitalism robs you and makes a wage slave of you.
  
  The law upholds and protects that robbery.
  
  The government fools you into believing that you are independent and free.
  
  In this way you are fooled and duped every day of your life.
  
  But how does it happen that you didn’t think of it before? How is it that most other people don’t see it, either?
  
  It is because you and every one else are lied to about this all the time, from your earliest childhood.
  
  You are told to be honest, while you are being robbed all your life.
  
  You are commanded to respect the law, while the law protects the capitalist who is robbing you.
  
  You are taught that killing is wrong, while the government hangs and electrocutes people and slaughters them in war.
  
  You are told to obey the law and government, though law and government stand for robbery and murder.
  
  Thus all through life you are lied to, fooled, and deceived, so that it will be easier to make profits out of you, to exploit you.
  
  Again from Now and After, Chapter 3: Law and Government. Available to read for free here.
  
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- ProIsh@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
  People generally steal because they need to. There’s theft because basic needs are so damn hard.
  
  Would you steal? No? Why not? It’s it because you don’t need to.
  
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  - Korhaka@sopuli.xyz ⁨1⁩ ⁨week⁩ ago
    You could use the same logic to justify a lot of criminal activity at that point
    
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