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HrabiaVulpes@europe.pub 3 days agoIt was used in Poland as a symbol of feminism when women protested against criminalization of abortion.
This is why it became nazi imagery, declared and sanctioned by polish right-wing government because they needed an excuse to stop the movement.
You from america, friend?
I’m gonna need some proof of this. I wonder why a German, designing a sign for the German members of the SS in 1929 (10 years before Germany invaded Poland), would choose a sign with the purpose of harming a Polish feminist/pro-abortion movement.
It makes no sense and I can’t find any sources saying anything like that at all.
So cough up some sources. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
natemat.pl/324721,symbol-czerwonej-blyskawicy-co-…
Article is in Polish, but I thing google translate or DeepL should work for you to get the gist. They picked this symbol as “lightning”
One lightning bolt by itself is a very different meaning to 2 right next to each other.
Especially so when next to a Black Sun
The black sun alone is a Nazi symbol. Invented by Heinrich Himmler himself and used as decoration for their SS Ordernsburg.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sun_(symbol)?wprov=sf…
Yeah, but also the red lightning bolt sign of the polish pro-abortion movement was introduced in 2016. The SS sign with the sigrune was introduced in 1929.
If nazis had time travel, how did they manage to screw their war effort up so badly? They must have been even worse tacticians than we thought!
On that I cannot disagree. All I wanted to defend was a singular lightning bolt.
Yeah, that article is about how the media deliberately misinterpreted the symbol as being nazi-like after the feminist movement picked it after the war and after the Nazis used their famous double lightning insignia.
This sort of contradicts your first comment … If I’m being kind I think you were just being inarticulate.
Dude, you got the timeline completely wrong: obieg.pl/…/210-the-red-lightning-of-all-poland-wo…
The red lightning sign as part of the polish pro-abortion movement came into existence in 2016! A whopping 87 years AFTER the Nazis created the SS sign.
WTF I just learned about this.
Idk about the polish feminist movement, but, respectfully, what the fuck are you on about
(Polish feminist lightning bolt I could find with 5s of research, they seem to do a pretty good job at differentiating their logo by having a single bolt with a different shape that is red and black instead of black and white. Red and black are usually associated with anti fascism btw)
What are you on about? Red and black anti fascism? Like, I dunno, people who wore those uniforms?
Yes, I am talking about this symbol. And while on the image you picked it clearly looks more like lightning, the narrower version was used too. And the idea that “SS” and “S” is the very same thing is just bonkers. All the alphabet would be symbols of hate by now.
Oh god.
So swastika (a hindu symbol) got taken by nazis and now nazi colours are taken by anti-nazis.
And everyone still thinks they know definitely what specific symbol/colour/letter symbolizes?
I’m giving up. I’m never correcting anyone on nazis ever again. If someone tells me that rainbow was used by hitler-lovers, I will just accept it as possible.
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CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 3 days ago
European.
And you should tell those guys they stole their symbol from 21st century feminists: Image Image Image