I mean, there is no cnn story linking operation paperclip psychologists and other scientists, and the newly founded CIA, to attempts at creating a master race/gaining kompromat/having a good excuse for pedo parties, but you can find evidence scattered about if you feel like diving into it.
There were early hits in the Laurel Canyon area in the 60s and 70s, then stuff scattered around the country, Nebraska, Nevada, Florida, New York, etc. In the early 80s there were a couple of sherifs, each in different states, who simultaneously started raising huge alarm bells because they discovered a genuinely well funded and organized network dedicated to smuggling children. A few years later the “panic” started, key figures from court cases “committed suicide” or had planes and cars crash horrifically, and then it was over.
I was personally there for the beginning of “pizzagate”, begrudgingly spending time going through distilled and raw feeds because it was originally high quality information on financial trails created by one of these deeply embedded groups. Within less than two weeks it was completely destroyed by limited hangouts and utterly insane disinformation. Two weeks later that hit the regular news feeds.
I don’t have a bunch of charlie-and-his-red-string links for you or a web of names and ties to things. They are useless anyway, as people either latch on to the wrong things and go schizo, or ignore years of methodical and sourced research. And anyway, that kind of research gets you attention I just don’t want.
But the shape of these things is there. The above is plenty to get looking, yourself. You’ll see it if you are dedicated to raw information feeds and niche researchers who source their osint and don’t fall into their own navel. So be on the lookout.
If you’re not dedicated to information in this way, don’t worry about it, just let the monsters in the dark do their thing. Nothing really to be done about them anyway.
You misunderstand, there is plenty of evidence to convince you and the ordinary person. What there is not, is an expose by the captured media, as one would expect.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 2 days ago
I mean, there is no cnn story linking operation paperclip psychologists and other scientists, and the newly founded CIA, to attempts at creating a master race/gaining kompromat/having a good excuse for pedo parties, but you can find evidence scattered about if you feel like diving into it.
There were early hits in the Laurel Canyon area in the 60s and 70s, then stuff scattered around the country, Nebraska, Nevada, Florida, New York, etc. In the early 80s there were a couple of sherifs, each in different states, who simultaneously started raising huge alarm bells because they discovered a genuinely well funded and organized network dedicated to smuggling children. A few years later the “panic” started, key figures from court cases “committed suicide” or had planes and cars crash horrifically, and then it was over.
I was personally there for the beginning of “pizzagate”, begrudgingly spending time going through distilled and raw feeds because it was originally high quality information on financial trails created by one of these deeply embedded groups. Within less than two weeks it was completely destroyed by limited hangouts and utterly insane disinformation. Two weeks later that hit the regular news feeds.
I don’t have a bunch of charlie-and-his-red-string links for you or a web of names and ties to things. They are useless anyway, as people either latch on to the wrong things and go schizo, or ignore years of methodical and sourced research. And anyway, that kind of research gets you attention I just don’t want.
But the shape of these things is there. The above is plenty to get looking, yourself. You’ll see it if you are dedicated to raw information feeds and niche researchers who source their osint and don’t fall into their own navel. So be on the lookout.
If you’re not dedicated to information in this way, don’t worry about it, just let the monsters in the dark do their thing. Nothing really to be done about them anyway.
FishFace@piefed.social 2 days ago
Well thank you for your frankness but it sounds like there’s not sufficient evidence to convince me, or the ordinary person.
Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 1 day ago
You misunderstand, there is plenty of evidence to convince you and the ordinary person. What there is not, is an expose by the captured media, as one would expect.
FishFace@piefed.social 1 day ago
I didn’t ask for an “exposé”. An article would be absolutely fine.