Comment on Starmer bans Labour councillors from doing deals with Polanski’s Green Party

• Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Not British so I can’t make very close observations, but can’t both times be attributed to his own party?

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  • hellothere@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Cards on the table, I’m a labour member who voted for Corbyn as leader twice and then Starmer in 2020.

    Solely attributed, no. A factor, sure.

    But the fact of the matter is that the left are playing on a rigged pitch. It isn’t fair, it isn’t balanced, the media are hypocrites and will invent controvosies out of thin air. Plus our electoral system is fundamentally broken.

    A perfect example is that Boris Johnson was known the ride a bicycle as Mayor of London. Nothing was made of it. When Corbyn became labour leader, suddenly he had a MAOIST BICYCLE.

    So while Corbyn’s labour did get more votes cast in 2017 and 2019 than Starmer’s labour did in 2024, it was too concentrated in cities. More people also turned out to vote against him because he was easier to characture as a 1970s throwback.

    Again, none of this is fair, or right. But it is the state of play, and you have to be able to overcome it. We rarely manage it, which is why the Tories have been in charge for over 2/3rds of the last 100 years.

    As always, simple answers to complex questions are lies.

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  • echodot@feddit.uk ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Corbin failed because he was utterly terrible at playing politician, and he had all these problematic associations which is political adversaries used to beat him over the head with but he wouldn’t cut ties with these groups out of stubbornness. Yes the media led a smear campaign against him, but he provided them with plenty of material to work with.

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