Comment on Israel has gone beyond self-defence in Gaza, Tory MP Alicia Kearns says
hellothere@sh.itjust.works 9 months agoYeah, exactly.
Comment on Israel has gone beyond self-defence in Gaza, Tory MP Alicia Kearns says
hellothere@sh.itjust.works 9 months agoYeah, exactly.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 months ago
Yeah right wingers and Palestinians don't go together at all. I'm saying that with more Palestinians a left wing-Palestinian government is also possible.
hellothere@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
A Palestinian government of a single unified state is not possible. A left wing one doubly so. The demographics are far too split and far too easily divided. There is no Mandela equivalent who can appeal to both sides whilst pushing peace, and so the polarisation would continue on religious lines.
You’d just end up with an even worse situation than now, and an all out civil war. All that would be achieved is the expansion of the current Israeli state, something you claim you’re against.
Please think things through rather than just wishing for convenient solutions.
NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 months ago
Okay I think you misunderstood me. I meant a coalition with left-wing and Palestinian parties. The 2021 government had an Arab party in the coalition so it's not exactly impossible.
hellothere@sh.itjust.works 9 months ago
As I’ve been saying from the beginning, you would find voting would concentrate around two blocks, drawn on religious lines because that is the main divisor.
Any election campaign would fuel that fight, and voting for smaller parties would be characterised as a negative to concentrate power, likely pushed through narratives of eradication. You’d end up with one major “Israeli” party and one “Palestinian” party, with the “Israeli” party wining because there are more of them.
If you’re going to compare to an apartied state - and I think that is valid - you also need to look at how South Africa transitioned, and how Mandela specifically was vital to that. He achieved a largely peaceful restructuring of the country, and one not often repeated elsewhere.
Think about it like this; almost permentently since 1947 the people in power of the region have been right wing, and stoked violent rhetoric against each other, and often calling for the destruction of the other. That dynamic doesn’t go away overnight, even if the walls are torn down.