Comment on Why aren't non-selfhosed AI models/apps private?

• acido@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  have you ever checked them?

  could you point me to where any of them proves that Proton isn’t actually collecting any data?

  because I am only reading about penetration tests and such, which only tell me that their software is reliable against attackers, but that is not the point of the discussion.

  also it seems there is no audit for their AI assistant at the link you provided.

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  • Steve@communick.news ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    No, I haven’t felt the need.

    Again, do you have any links with evidence to the contrary?

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    • acido@feddit.it ⁨2⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      then why did you link them?

      anyway, the point here is that they are the ones making claims, so they have the burden of proof.

      as I told you already, corporations lie to their customers all the time, so it is always better to be safe and wait for the actual proof before trusting any of them.

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      • Steve@communick.news ⁨1⁩ ⁨hour⁩ ago

        You’re not saying “I don’t know”. If you assume they’re lying, you’re also making a claim. One you can’t back up in this case.

        And another place your confused, Proton isn’t a typical corporate structure. It’s owned by a non-profit, almost charity, effectively. One who’s board of trustees is entirely scientists and engineers.

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