Comment on Personalized Political Spectrum
Riverside@reddthat.com 1 day agoHow is Utopian communist further left? A non-realizable ideology isn’t left, left is one which actually has political power and is based on material reality, because it’s the one which ends up achieving results.
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
the farthest extremes on either sure are unrealistic and deluded. just because you like one side doesn’t mean they dont get crazy when you go far enough. it’s VERY important not to lose site of that.
yes a communist utopia is unachievable. yes there are people who are actively pursuing that impossible goal. that does not make them unleft.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 1 day ago
Being in the middle does not make a stance correct. Saying “slavery is good” and someone saying “slavery is bad” does not make “some slavery is good” the correct position.
Secondly, utopianism is what they are referring to, the practice of theorycrafting a perfect idea and trying to create that by explaining that perfect idea to everyone. Communism has been scientific since Marx, however those who still cling to utopianism over scientific communism do exist to this day. They are typically called “ultraleft,” but not because they are “more left,” but because they place ideals over material reality. That’s why the question exists, can they truly be called “more left” if their strategy is impossible to begin with?
thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 day ago
i didn’t say you should be centerist lmao. i said that extremism is real and something to watch yourself on. I’m very far left, that why I’m on this forum you goof. that doesn’t mean leftist extremism isn’t real.
left vs right is just defined by vague political goals and ideas. so say anything is more or less of that is impossible because the scale is undefined. that’s not what matters, the point is that if you don’t police your own beliefs you are likely to fall down dangerous rabbit holes.
Cowbee@lemmy.ml 23 hours ago
My point is that “extremism” doesn’t really mean anything, except that it diverges from the median political opinion. Communism is correct and viable, despite being “extreme” in the eyes of the mainstream westerner.