Comment on How come if my dog is sick and I take him to get put out of his misery its ok? On a human its not? How come human laws don't apply to animals? I think of our dog as family and he's one of us?

DrSleepless@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

• IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  Some countries allow it. The major difference is that other people cannot choose for you. Your family can’t “put you down” but you can choose to have a doctor assist.

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• Whitebrow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  And shouldn’t need to be terminally ill or old.

  If I wanna peace out (humanely) at any age past adulthood, I should be able to.

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  • its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    I agree in theory, but often the desire to end one’s life is often symptom of a treatable disease, or short term situation. Less than 10 percent of people who survive a suicide attempt, latter try again and succeed. There would need to be a lot of safety net in place, just like there is for the terminal.

    Honestly I think it could save people. Knowing there is a way out, so to speak, could prevent people from attempts on their own. Not to mention it would prevent traumatizing whoever finds a successful suicide. Needing proof that other treatments are inactive would get even more the help they need.

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    • Whitebrow@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I can see where you’re potentially coming from.

      But I don’t think you comprehend how violent an act of suicide in almost all cases.

      It takes an insane level of commitment to go through with that the first time, more so for the subsequent attempts.

      Also of the people who really aim to end it, succeed on the first try.

      I don’t know about you, but if given the choice, I probably wouldn’t be here. There’s nothing particularly wrong with me physically, I just don’t want to be here.

      Been the case over a decade ago. Pretty much back as long as I can remember. Still the case today.

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      • its_prolly_fine@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        The interesting thing about suicide is that it can be “contagious”. Also being under the influence increases the risk of it, not to mention access to a gun. This is some of the evidence that points to most suicides being an impulsive act. Having a plan already in place to go to the “euthanasia clinic” could curb some of the impulsive suicides. Completely understand the comparison to the stupid abortion clinic ridiculousness. It just seems like there needs to be a way to ensure the people using it are in the statistical group of multiple suicide attempts that end in success.

        I’m sorry you feel like you don’t want to be here. I absolutely understand that, there have been many times in my life when I felt the same. I don’t know the right way to say this, but have you tried therapy or medication? Both have helped me at various points in my life, and it is a relief not to feel that way. I say this because it isn’t too late for you. By the time I was truly feeling excited by living, I was diagnosed with a brain tumor. I hope you can find a path to looking forward to being here in the world most of the time.

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    • AA5B@lemmy.world ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I do wonder about that. My ex’s uncle decided that financial and legal issues were insurmountable so he could no longer be here. Obviously I have no idea whether a humane option would have been an option, but his issues were clearly temporary so any opportunity to intervene could have saved a lot of collateral damage. Including, while his family appreciated that they didn’t have to discover him, that cop shouldn’t have either

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