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fizzle@quokk.au 4 days agoNah.
People (yes including me) are pretty much lazy idiots who tend to believe whatever plausible thing was told them most recently, without really investigating supporting arguments and comparing them to counter arguments.
Imagine if you had any vote that might effect an industry or a large corporation. That industry would influence the narrative and hence the outcome.
You may as well just form government by having your largest 500 companies nominate a representative from their board.
GardenGeek@europe.pub 3 days ago
I would argue that neither you nor most other people like making bad decisions, right?
If, after the vote, there’s no representative—aka “those up there”—to blame for your own bad decision, that probably sets off a learning process where you either do better research next time or, if you’re too unsure or not interested in the topic, stay out of it and leave the choice to people who think they know more about it.
Without fixed terms, you can vote again in six months if you realize that your decision isn’t solving the problem and enough other people feel the same way… whereas now you have to rely on a representative to make decisions in your best interest (and not in the interest of their own wallet), and, if the decision turns out to be bad for you, hope that another government will revisit the law in 20 years.
That’s basically the case right now, so it wouldn’t even constitute a deterioration?
In the system I’ve proposed, however, this would only work until enough resistance to corporate practices builds up because the business model harms the majority. Since there are no legislative terms, such practices could be stopped more quickly than in today’s system, where industry simply buys off the newly elected representatives and can then carry on as before for another four years…
fizzle@quokk.au 3 days ago
I might have thought that a decade ago, but it’s become very, very obvious in the interceding years that people vote against their own interests all the time for a variety of reasons, and do not engage in any kind of self-criticism regarding their previous decisions.
GardenGeek@europe.pub 3 days ago
I understand exactly what you mean.
But at the same time, I also believe that the inherent problem with our representative democracies is this: Voters are asked about EVERY issue all at once every four years and then vote for ONE representative party. So, in the end, everyone ends up voting on a whole bunch of issues that neither interest nor affect them. Worse still: when checks and balances are undermined, as is currently the case, the elected representatives can do whatever they want for four years.
In the best-case scenario, the majority of today’s voters inform themselves about the current campaign promises and forecasts a few weeks before the election and then lose interest again for four years. Or, to put it another way, the system actually provokes the “I don’t do politics” attitude among a majority of voters.
However, if the effects of their own decisions were transparent and immediate, I believe there would be a greater willingness to actually inform themselves.
And on the topic of demagoguery and populism: If people had the opportunity to vote against immigration (even if you don’t agree with that position) without undermining democracy through a corrupt bunch of politicians, we as a society would still be better off than in the current situation, where emotionally charged issues are used to make dictators and shitty politics palatable to people.