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ptu@sopuli.xyz 20 hours agoThere is a small but existent group of Quranic muslims, who accept only Quran as the complete and total revelation from Allah.
But I resist the urge to start going through different sects and their views on their religion, rather I’d focus here on the historical aspect of what an arabian couple did or did not do on their wedding night some 1400 years ago, and that the strongest evidence is something that has passed through six people until eventually written down a couple of hundred years after the event.
Tmiwi@lemmy.world 19 hours ago
yeah I hear you, for my part quranists are an interesting one as so much of the actual practices require some observance of the hadiths, such as explaining how to pray and perform Hajj. although from a logical point of view I do sympathise with the want to stay as close to the teaching of the prophet as they can. as to the historical side of what happened 1400 years ago, well it’s all a wash to me, we’ll never know.
ptu@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
To me the the hadiths are against what is said in the Quran about it being complete and sufficient. If it’s not, then those surahs are wrong, which takes some credibility off of it.
beyond-islam.org/…/the-quran-is-complete/
In comparison the New Testament is supposedly about Jesus, but a huge part of it is actually texts written by Paul who never even met Jesus (at least in flesh)
biblehub.com/topical/t/the_case_against_paul.htm
In the end It’s Pauls teachings that divide christians, and it’s the hadiths that divide muslims.
Tmiwi@lemmy.world 18 hours ago
I agree with everything you’ve said, either the teachings of the prophet are the word of god or they aren’t, I have never quite understood the acceptance of revelations by non prophets or teachings that were created long after the prophets death, doesn’t matter which prophet we’re talking about.
but again I’m just speaking of my own thoughts on the matter. people can, obviously, believe what they like.
ptu@sopuli.xyz 17 hours ago
Agreed, thank you for the insightful conversation