Comment on Its all the phone and communists fault

• silverneedle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  I reject the notion of objective goods as that is a contradiction in adjectives and neither is it in my specific interests that everyone has food, water, healthcare, education and shelter.

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  • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    Thanks for your honest response. I think your values are sociopathic, but luckily, I also think you are a rare exception among our species.

    Thanks for the chat, I don’t see how there’s anything productive that can come from discussing this further, so I hope you have a great day and I wish you a lot of love and solidarity. All the best.

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    • silverneedle@lemmy.ca ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      I think your values are sociopathic and destructive

      I’d like to carefully disagree here. If someone took a friend from me, or abused them terribly without any apology, I would want them to die. I think this is a very empathetic and prosocial reaction which is not at all sociopathic. Think of the time female bonobos brutally killed a member of their cohort for killing a defenseless baby that truly couldn’t act in its own interest.

      What is sociopathic however is that we salute them troops because they keep the country safe by squashing alleged threats. Only a minority stands to benefit from what we currently consider good, those who make the world work in concrete terms will never meet those beneficiaries. Workers have their lives exhausted and brains forcefed with shit for a section of people that would forever remain abstract to them. A prosocial reaction by workers would spell Armageddon on the current state of the world, and believe me, that is most likely what you are pointing towards but still are too scared to consider the full implications of.

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      • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        I’d like to carefully disagree here. If someone took a friend from me, or abused them terribly without any apology, I would want them to die.

        Viewing friends and family as property and becoming angry and violent when someone violates your perceived property is perfectly in line with sociopathy. Most humans care about others, because they feel empathy, even for people who they have never met and have no connection to, heck, even towards creatures entirely unlike us.

        Have you been a victim of abuse or trauma? Did you have an abusive or neglectful childhood?

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• bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  @OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world - What do you think, buddy? Do you disagree with this too?

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  • OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    I think it’s objectively efficient, but not objectively “good”

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    • bearboiblake@pawb.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      Wouldn’t you prefer to live in a society without homelessness, for example?

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      • OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

        My disagreement was with the wording of “good”, that’s all.

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