Who brought that idea in? You just made that up.

Oh, that’s what I understood from the thread starting with:

its ok to fap

But I agree with your points, in general.

I guess where I am talking past you (or ‘listening’ past you, as it were) is that my argument is focused on this specific instance of someone doing something and I understood people to react with discouragement. You’re embedding the discussion into a wider societal angle. It still seems somewhat strange to bring it up in this instance as the original post also doesn’t mention any of the points you touch on and the ideas thus seem similarly ‘made up’ and brought in, for this case, to me.

But I definitely don’t have an argument with the points themselves, they are well made.