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t3rmit3@beehaw.org 20 hours agoEdit: Hey everyone, you can disregard the above comment by TehPers, because they clarified that they actually aren’t claiming booster packs are illegal:
If you are only arguing about what is or isn’t legal, then you’re wasting your time. I’m not a lawyer, nor in a position to rule on laws. I don’t know if something gave you the impression otherwise.
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Thank you for clarifying to all of us that you do not comment in good faith. It makes it much easier for me to know which people to block.
Frankly, I don’t mind. I don’t love being accused of posting in bad faith and berated just because you forgot what you originally posted. Cheers.
Flagging @TehPers@beehaw.org on this response, as it applies to both of you. You’re reasonable, longtime, constructive members on Beehaw. Maybe someone’s having a bad day, but it saddens me to see the two of you going at each other. I don’t feel there’s a rift here, just disagreement over wording.
This said, we’re all adults. I’m just more confused than anything, and I’m sure as fuck not going to take a side. This interaction wasn’t Beeing nice.
Seeing as I can’t see the thread anymore for previously mentioned reasons (yet oddly I can reply to you because you pinged me), I’m not sure which mod currently holds the reins over this community, but feel free to just delete the whole thread.
There’s a discussion in another post that is almost certainly related to this one. I alluded to it when I came to that conclusion, which might have confused you.
TehPers@beehaw.org 20 hours ago
US law does not view TCGs as gambling, but by the colloquial definition, it is gambling. You say there’s no wager on an outcome. The wager is the price you spend on a pack, and the outcome is the resale value of the contents of the pack.
As for the case against Valve in particular, I make no claims as to what they should or shouldn’t argue in the case. I am not a lawyer. I can’t imagine most people in this instance are either.
t3rmit3@beehaw.org 19 hours ago
TehPers@beehaw.org 19 hours ago
Mostly correct. Buying anything which retains value after the purchase is a wager. This includes shares in a company, collectible items, even a shipping crate of RAM.
In the case of TCGs, the bet is that the value of the cards contained in the pack exceed the money spent on the pack. This is very common. And within TCG communities, there is a common understanding that this is gambling.
That’s of course not to say that all purchases of a booster pack are with the intent to gamble. I’ve also played poker and blackjack for fun, and those games are full of wagers, bets, and outcomes. But the bar has never been that all possible reasons to do something are to gamble, just that gambling is a common motivation to do it.
t3rmit3@beehaw.org 19 hours ago