and every forum had rules against bumping, typically only once in 24 hours, and only like once or twice.

You’re talking about pure bumping where someone has a zero-content comment like “bump” and nothing else. I’m talking about the entire spectrum of low to high quality content, from “bump” to the general phenomenon of reviving old threads to soft bumps like adding additional useless information to an unanswered request.

Other examples include stupid arguments that needed moderation to be shut down (a phpBB or vBulletin post that spanned 50+ pages in a forum where 3-4 was the norm, all because 2 users wouldn’t shut the fuck up), always occupying the top of the chronological sort.

The point is that any active forum with more than 1000 comments per day needed to be heavily moderated. User votes allowed forums to scale beyond that limited size. Chronological sort was terrible and didn’t scale beyond a group of 100-200 users (not coincidentally similar to Dunbar’s number), which is why any decent forum today doesn’t do it by default, including any totally free and open source forums, like the fediverse forum platforms of Lemmy and Piefed and Mbin. And even choosing to put these platforms on pure chronological sort reduces the quality of the overall experience.

Honestly, I dont know how anyone can say that the days before gamification, before adpocalypse, before billionaire hijacking of the internet for their own personal ends, is worse than what we have today. It borders on either lunacy, or propaganda.

I’m talking about the use of user voting, which undoubtedly improved the quality of forums (along with comment threading so that each comment could branch off into its own collapsible side discussion) when slashdot and a bunch of copycats started doing similar things (see HN, Reddit). You can’t look at Reddit in 2026 and complain that the sorting algorithms they implemented in 2005 or 2007 made things worse. No, things got worse around 2015-2020 when the front page algorithm stopped prioritizing quality over engagement bait.