Comment on Pornography depicting sexual relationships between step-relatives set to be banned
Gentryfried@feddit.uk 2 days agoThere is no way the kids who grew up with technology in their lives from the start won’t find ways to work around it
This is why i support the age verificsrion already in place, and perhaps a social media ban for kids - if we prevent them from seeing porn in the first place then they may not seek it out at all. Kids should at least be educated on how dangerous it is before they have a chance to stumble upon it.
So yes, they can locate it via VPNs and such, but that isn’t an argument against trying to prevent them from seeing the stuff in the first place.
Even if kids were to be completely banned from the internet and it somehow magically was enforceable, they’d just end up buying physical porn.
This doesn’t really line up with the experience of me or anyone my own age. Porn is popular because it’s on the screen and super easily accessible, like literally more easily accesible than food and water, lol.
But besides: physical porn is less harmful than internet porn.
- Are we talking playboy magazines? Static images > moving videos
- Or maybe porn videos? Well assuming such sales points even exist anymore, and aren’t enforcing age rules on the products sold, I still thinm they’ll end ul with stuff less violent or psychologically dangerous than they’d be seeing on the internet
- Alao, having to buy it from the get go makes it a much easier habit to manage. Rather than an addiction.
If they actually wanted improvement, they’d fund support for parents and the educational system so kids grow up in environments that teach them good values and feel safe in.
I do not feel good about getting the government to do nanny work for parents, as it has been disastrous so far. We should aim to get parents more time with their kids - e.g via a 4day work week - and we need to emohasis the importance of actually teaching your kids stuff rather than waiting for the government to do it.
toebert@piefed.social 2 days ago
I don’t follow your reasoning, you support the current laws enacted by the government in this area (age verification, proposing ban from social media) but you end your comment saying you disagree with the government nannying kids as they do a poor job of it. Those seem contradictory?
Also, you don’t need a VPN to get around the current set of age verification crap. All you need to do is to look at smaller providers, which the government ignored because it’s unfeasible to regulate them. Or providers from different countries who just straight up don’t care. It’s not even hard to find these, pretty much just page 2 of Google.
The point being, any of these laws are unenforceable in reality. Preventing access to porn is not feasible in today’s world. It was not feasible 30 years ago when the internet barely existed, except then yes it was magazines (and porn was still popular then because sex has always been popular in the history of humanity). In today’s world if it came down to it I imagine it’d be SD cards or usb sticks. You seem to imagine it like walking into a store, in reality it’d be the 1 kid who got his older brother to download him porn and then sells it in school to his classmates for a few quid.
These existed for pirated movies and games ages ago when access to them was harder. There is no need for this today because it’s easier to get it from the internet. If the government magically managed to change that (which is doubtful), these would just re-appear because there’d be money to make. Same story as drugs.
Regarding your last point, you phrased it like you were disagreeing with what I said, but basically just suggested the same but with concrete examples (re: better support for parents and the education system). I’m not sure what to make of that.