Personally, I would like to see them both get new users. And Delta Chat, and XMPP, and other messengers too. Relying too heavily on one option is what got us into this mess.
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Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 1 day agoHopefully revolt. Matrix sucks.
november@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 day ago
hoppolito@mander.xyz 5 hours ago
Relying too heavily on one option is what got us into this mess.
I agree with the sentiment but still feel the need to point out: specifically, relying heavily on one proprietary, non-federated option is what did it.
Open software with an established, open protocol (yes, even one as bloated as Matrix) has way less eggs-in-basket danger. The difficulty, last I checked, of self-hosting stoat is one thing that makes me a little wary of it too.
PacMan@sh.itjust.works 1 day ago
I will check that one out! Currently evaluating a bunch of self hosting options right now
orenj@lemmy.sdf.org 17 hours ago
didn’t that one rebrand to stoat, and then reveal they’re into slop coding?
astropenguin5@lemmy.world 14 hours ago
Yeah they rebranded to stoat, idk about slop coding tbh.
There’s been talk in one of my main discord servers to move over to it though
Bababasti@feddit.org 8 hours ago
Do you actually mean Matrix or Element, the client? Cause I see a lot of people mixing these things up. Element does indeed suck as a Matrix Client but there’s been a sudden surge of quite nice clients.
Eyck_of_denesle@lemmy.zip 6 hours ago
Both. I’m no expert but I remember reading that it’s tech sucks. It’s search features and keys stuff are not that good. The element client is just bad. I’ve been using nheko client and it’s still no where near discord.