Do not live in the states, but have the feeling that with all the ICE killing going on (media makes it seem rather serious) it would have been a reduction of violence if democrats had won ‘24.
Also I do wonder aren’t there no smaller parties that might even be considered good? Sure they would not win by a long shot, it’s still a vote taken from fascists.
Do not live in the states, but have the feeling that with all the ICE killing going on (media makes it seem rather serious) it would have been a reduction of violence if democrats had won ‘24.
Nah the violence would be the same, but the vote-blue-no-matter-who liberals wouldn’t be yelling about it, because it’s okay when the Democrats do ICE/Gaza genocide/police violence/environmental destruction/regime change/basically anything Trump has done butfilling out the legal paperwork first.
Do not live in the states, but have the feeling that with all the ICE killing going on (media makes it seem rather serious) it would have been a reduction of violence if democrats had won ‘24.
Read the link. Voting is not harm reduction. I’m an anarchist. 🏴
To organize from a position that voting is an act of damage limitation blurs lines of the harm that settler and resource colonialism imposes.
Under colonial occupation all power operates through violence. There is absolutely nothing “less harmful” about participating in and perpetuating the political power of occupying forces. Voting won’t undue settler colonialism, white supremacy, hetero-patriarchy, or capitalism. Voting is not a strategy for decolonization. The entire process that arrived at the “Native vote” was an imposition of U.S. political identity on Indigenous Peoples fueled by white supremacy and facilitated by capitalism.
It’s pretty much the same in a parliamentary election system with an electoral threshold.
If the party you vote for can’t clear that threshold, you might as well not vote at all.
I guess your vote still has a slight impact, as it makes it harder for other parties that hover around the electoral threshold to get in. But I doubt that’s the impact you are going for.
vogi@piefed.social 7 hours ago
Do not live in the states, but have the feeling that with all the ICE killing going on (media makes it seem rather serious) it would have been a reduction of violence if democrats had won ‘24.
Also I do wonder aren’t there no smaller parties that might even be considered good? Sure they would not win by a long shot, it’s still a vote taken from fascists.
PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 7 hours ago
Nah the violence would be the same, but the vote-blue-no-matter-who liberals wouldn’t be yelling about it, because it’s okay when the Democrats do ICE/Gaza genocide/police violence/environmental destruction/regime change/basically anything Trump has done butfilling out the legal paperwork first.
Read the link. Voting is not harm reduction. I’m an anarchist. 🏴
Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 7 hours ago
Voting for minor parties in the US isn’t a vote taken from fascists in a winner takes it all system.
It only has symbolic power and can prevent an absolute majority
vogi@piefed.social 7 hours ago
Oh right… I forgot about that, must have had an actual democratic system in mind :/
Flauschige_Lemmata@lemmy.world 1 hour ago
It’s pretty much the same in a parliamentary election system with an electoral threshold.
If the party you vote for can’t clear that threshold, you might as well not vote at all.
I guess your vote still has a slight impact, as it makes it harder for other parties that hover around the electoral threshold to get in. But I doubt that’s the impact you are going for.