Comment on Is the right to abortion a "negative right" or a "positive right"?
Instigate@aussie.zone 11 months ago
The issue when discussing abortion is that there is no generally accepted point in which a blastocyst/zygote/foetus becomes a fully-fledged, sentient being. Some argue that the point of conception instills personhood; others make arguments based upon how developed a foetus is and if it has differentiated sensory organs; some make an arbitrary distinction based on the elapsing of time; and others still agree that personhood is conveyed only once a baby is born and survives labour.
Those arguing this point have a tendency to become entrenched in their opinions, be it because of religious or cultural norms, or even just the basic human condition of stubbornness. This creates permanent rifts between people who share FAR more in common than they differ.
My personal opinion is a technocratic one - I don’t believe that this decision should be made by anyone other than relevant medical professional(s) and the pregnant person. That means that legislatively (or constitutionally), I’m advocating for no legal restrictions on abortions whatsoever and empowering health professionals to determine what is reasonable or safe.
This position is often (intentionally) misunderstood as not believing that the unborn have rights as well - they absolutely do. I’m a child protection caseworker and we regularly work with pregnant people who show signs there may be risk of harm after birth (issues like substance abuse, mental health issues, domestic violence, disability without sufficient support etc.) in order to preserve the best start to life that an unborn child can have. I just don’t accept that there are any circumstances under which the right of an unborn child trumps professional medical opinions. Doctors are best placed to determine when and if an abortion is appropriate or necessary.
Each individual maintains the right to not have an abortion forced on them, but then gains the right to engage in an abortion if it’s medically safe and sound.
jasory@programming.dev 9 months ago
“This is misunderstood as the unborn don’t have rights”
They have rights, the rights just don’t matter because a doctor decides so?
“Trumps professional medical opinions”
What do you think medical opinions are determining? Medically indicated abortions are relatively rare (and almost always permitted under restrictive laws), what other determinations do you think medical professionals are making?
What you are actually trying to do is categorise a persons desire for abortion as the same as medically necessary abortions to launder the credibility that the latter has. You try to get away with this based on the fact that one can find doctors that will do anything, even intentionally kill healthy adults. Reality check, here. Doctors like anyone else can engage in immoral behaviour, the mere fact that they do it does not make it moral.
I absolutely love that you couch all of this with “trust me I care, I’m a social worker”. You can care passionately about something and advocate for great harm.
I think you primarily feel misunderstood because you’re profoundly stupid.