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SmartmanApps@programming.dev 1 day agoYes, because I finished third grade in primary school
Which would explain why you don’t know The Distributive Law, which is taught in Year 7
Do you also expect evidence of gravity?
No, just evidence to back up your claims, but of course you don’t have any
Go back and read the comments again
You know reading things again doesn’t change what’s written right?? No, you don’t, since you kept asking me to re-read the part about doing all addition first, thinking somehow that was magically going to change if I read it again 😂
you can find the answers
Nope! Hard to find when you didn’t answer, and notably you’ve not done a screenshot of them, because they don’t exist. Weird how you’re the only one not able to back up anything of what you’ve said 😂
Yeah, if you ignore what the text says
which you just did, again, because you know it proves you are wrong 😂 Why are you so afraid to quote it if you think it proves you are right? 😂
However, if you actually read the letters on the screenshot, you’ll find that it does
still say, do all addition first
you’re also incapable of scrolling down to the sources part of the article…?
Well, apparently you are, since there are no Maths textbooks listed in the sources 😂
I never said anything like that
Let’s go to the screenshot…
I said that, in terms of the order of operations, addition/subtraction and multiplication/division are equal, because they can be inverted (subtraction into addition of negative numbers, division into multiplication of fractions) to achieve
Nope, see screenshot of you saying they are the same
understand that concept, you can skip subtraction and division from the mnemonics
Now you’re just rehashing the same already-debunked rubbish. The whole point of the mnemonics is for those who don’t understand, just follow these steps 🙄
prove that what I linked to is wrong
Did that already with the textbooks and worked examples. Maybe you need to read it slowly? 😂
One more time: welcome to the Internet
One more time, welcome to you can’t debunk what I said, so you deflect
I like how you’re doing exactly what I’m talking about while still saying I’m incorrect
Nope. Again let’s go to the screenshot…
quote one example equation I did here that proves I’m not understanding these concepts. :)
See previous screenshot 😂
But is not reinforced by the mnemonic itself
AS doesn’t reinforce doing A before S? 😂
Reading comprehension, remember?
Yep, you’ve got none. You thought Wikipedia counted as a Maths textbook 😂
I’m glad I was able to explain this to you
I knew it all along - you were the one saying that the brackets matter in PE(MD)(AS), which we’ve now comprehensively debunked 😂
See above
Yep, you finally proved yourself wrong because the mental gymnastics weren’t up to proving that brackets matter in PE(MD)(AS) 😂
when the examples were 2 + 2 and 2 * 2?
No they weren’t! You have such a short memory, no wonder you ended up contradicting yourself! 🤣 Let’s go to the screenshot…
I’m going to ask you a couple of questions so
you can deflect again 😂
I understand how brackets work and that was a perfectly valid use
Nope, we proved it wasn’t 😂
says person who thinks doing addition first for 9-3+2 is 4
Now you’re just inventing things I never said.
Let’s go to the screenshot… 😂
It wasn’t 2 - 2, tho
Let’s go to the screenshot, again…
Or did you fail to read that correctly too?
Not me. See previous screenshot 😂
Again, I’m glad you’re slowly getting to the point I was making
Nope. your point that brackets matter in PE(MD)(AS) is still wrong, as proven 😂
It’s weird how you’re still phrasing it like I was somehow wrong
says person who proved it was wrong 😂
Considering that’s exactly what I did
Nope! You claimed it was entirely different if you did that. Again, let’s go to the screenshot…
You’re so cute when you’re trying to turn this whole argument on its head after realising how silly your initial points were!
says the person actually trying to do that, as proven by the screenshots 😂
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 22 hours ago
Me: consistently using the Distributive Law throughout the thread.
You: “Which would explain why you don’t know The Distributive Law, which is taught in Year 7”
How does that work again?
I showed you two, you showed yourself one - how many more do you need?
True, but reading again carefully would change what you thought was written, friend.
OK, here’s a challenge for you - quote the bit that says “do all addition first”.
Awww, you’re so cute! You think all maths knowledge only comes from school textbooks! <3
Ah, so you don’t know what “context” is. Got it. I’ll try to keep things easier to understand for you going forward.
In which case they will often make mistakes, as shown by the “9 minus whatever plus something” equation I did. Again, I get that you’re only on your “day two on the Internet” so you’re not aware of it, but these kinds of equations cause people A LOT of trouble.
Don’t get me wrong - I get what you’re saying. That if the people who don’t understand the order of operations understood the Distributive Law, then their lack of understanding of the order of operations wouldn’t matter. But, I hope, you get where this line of thinking fails, right?
Ah, so you’re saying that a site teaching maths is wrong, and your proof is the fact that you don’t understand how sentences work? Cool, cool.
Which proves what, in your mind…?
A is not before S. A is equal to S in the order of operations. As proven here, here, here or here, which also conveniently mentions the two different mnemonics in PEMDAS and BODMAS (where, I’m sure your keen eye will notice, the D and M are flipped).
Here’s a short quote from the second to last source:
So, there’s that.
No, I thought you were capable of checking the sources on the bottom of the article. My bad. But now I also understand that you wouldn’t consider actual mathematical research as sources, because it needs to be a school book for you. I hope the university article links above will be good enough?
You have an extremely weird fixation on brackets, friend. The only thing we’ve debunked is your understanding of mathematical fundamentals and reading skills. :(
Oh no! You caught me on misremembering one of the couple of examples I gave you! NOOOOOO! My life is RUINED!
So now, again, why did you start talking about
1 + 3if the examples were2 - 2and2 / 2?Awww… You can’t answer these questions? I mean, I’m not surprised considering what you’ve shown so far but I was hoping you’d at least try.
And where are the brackets, friend? Do your keen eyes see
(2-2)or whatever, or2+(-2)?But, as I see you’ll just never let go of this misconception of yours, here you are:
You can see the exact same notation as I used, in the exact same context. When you read the rest of that Level 1 introductory lesson, you’ll also learn that you can actually ONLY use brackets to denote negative numbers, like so:
2 + (2), which would equal to2 - 2. Incredible, I know!I mean… Come on - brackets DO matter in PEMDAS, they’re the very first item on the list (Brackets == Parentheses). You’re getting all confused here.
As to the notation of “PE(MD)(AS)” - you may be surprised to learn, but brackets used in the context of language don’t mean the same thing as brackets used in the context of maths, which means that the “(MD)” doesn’t somehow mean I was suggesting these should be considered to… always be in brackets? Like, I don’t even know what you were trying to say here.
Again, it’s OK to have a vivid imagination, but you’re just making yourself look silly when you talk about it with others as if it’s fact.
Yes, I agree, the way I worded that was poor. Setting pronumerals to 1 is the same as just removing them from the notation completely.
It’s OK, you already understood the core concept of what I meant, I firmly believe that we can get you to understand the whole thing within a week! :)
SmartmanApps@programming.dev 21 hours ago
Nope. Let’s go to the screenshots again…
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Nope, you showed Wikipedia, which is known to be wrong, as per Maths textbooks
Nope. Still says add all positive numbers first! 😂
Never said anything of the sort liar, which is why you’re unable to quote me saying that. I did say to you, repeatedly, that you are unable to cite any Maths textbooks that support you, and so far you have proven that to be true, since you haven’t cited any maths textbooks. You really do need to work on that poor comprehension of yours 😂
Nope! That was you! Here we go…
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Says person who can’t even remember what he said, despite me posting screenshots of him saying it 😂
In which you failed that anyone at all has ever done it like that, other than you 😂
Says person who can’t show anyone having trouble with it, thus revealing himself as the Day 2 person 😂
Where you then went on to say something completely unrelated to anything I said, thus proving you don’t get what I’m saying 😂
Which would maybe be why I never said anything of the sort 😂
Yep, there’s a lot of them. Welcome to what happens when people don’t have to have Maths qualifications to write a Maths website. Welcome to the Internet Day 2 person! 😂
Maths textbooks
So, it’s not bedmAS and pemdAS?? 😂
Which means you can do them in any order, including doing A BEFORE S, a concept you are having a lot of trouble with 😂 having claimed that led people to get wrong answers, like 9-3+2=4, which so far you’ve not shown anyone making that mistake other than you 😂
and are not written as PE(MD)(AS) and BE(DM)(AS), which you claimed is important to remember, and still haven’t backed up with any evidence whatsoever! 😂
Yep, as I’ve been telling you all along. So where’s this bit about “it’s important to remember PE(MD)(AS)” then? Not anywhere in this source 😂
Which doesn’t support your argument that it’s PE(MD)(AS), so there’s that 😂
Which also weren’t Maths textbooks, as I already pointed out to you 😂
Mr. Lack of Comprehension still not understanding the words MATHS TEXTBOOKS 🤣🤣🤣
Do you need to get your mum to read this out to you to spot the difference between the phrases “Maths textbooks” and “University article”? 😂
You were the one who made the claim about the brackets. I’m just debunking your rubbish claim about the brackets 😂
says someone who can’t tell the difference between Maths textbooks, and any one of a dozen other things 😂
Lying is the word you’re looking for, and more than a couple
Take you own advice - go back and read it slowly this time 😂 Still says the same thing as when I first said it
No, you can’t defend your claim, so you keep deflecting
Speaking of being fixated on brackets 😂
Still not a Maths textbook. Have you noticed yet that you haven’t been able to cite any Maths textbook that supports your claims?? 😂
That wasn’t from a Maths textbook
It still won’t be a Maths textbook
The proof is in this thread 😂
which means it is totally valid to add all positive numbers first, as per the textbook which had an example with pronumerals and did just that😂
says person who still doesn’t understand what the words “Maths textbooks” MEANS 😂
Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 19 hours ago
Sorry, mate, TLDR.
I skimmed through it, I’m glad you learned some new concepts, still find it hilarious that you’re then trying to turn it around and pretend like I didn’t understand something, but it’s all good fun.
Enjoy your newfound knowledge and maybe work on not being so prickly.
SmartmanApps@programming.dev 18 hours ago
I’ll take that as an admission of being wrong then
I’ve no idea whose comments you skimmed through, but clearly not mine. I’ve been saying the same thing from start to finish, and you eventually contradicted yourself 😂
says someone trying to pretend he did 😂
mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 19 hours ago
You incompetent fraud, that’s a different person - me. It’s easy to lose track when literally everyone is calling out your bullshit.
Here’s you quoting a textbook that says to solve inside the brackets first, even without a mulitply sign.
Here’s you quoting a textbook that says you must do the opposite of that.
And as a bonus, here’s you getting 2(3+5)^2^ wrong.
I am looking for how to politely contact your instance’s admins about your behavior.
SmartmanApps@programming.dev 18 hours ago
That would be because you are replying to my reply to them and not my reply to you, which makes you the incompetent fraud 😂
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says someone who actually lost track and is replying to my reply to someone else 😂
In other words, The Distributive Law, as I’ve been saying all along, yes, and your point is?
Nope! Says the exact same thing - Distribute BEFORE REMOVING BRACKETS which is exactly what the previous one did. I have no idea why you think they contradict each other 😂
Nope! Getting it right, Brackets before exponents, as per the order of operations rules, found in Maths textbooks 😂
Because there’s something wrong with fact checking?? 😂 Students usually appreciate finding out where they went wrong, but not you, obviously, and somehow that’s an issue for an admin?? 😂