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Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 6 hours agoAgain you are wrong that 30% includes payment fees give it a search and educate yourself.
But yeah all those “failed competitors” I “cherry picked” charge the same amount steam does which was your original argument about why it sucks so bad. So you should be outraged at PS and Xbox charging that AND a few to use your internet on multiplayer games.
Literally the only one that charges less hasn’t been profitable. You’re out of your element Donny.
Every single other competitor charges the same thing they do, is that enough evidence or are you going to claim every single other service is a failed competitor again?
tawaken@lemmy.world 6 hours ago
I’ve seen additional fees multiple times at bill screen so I misunderstood. I apologize. Though, usually payment fees are below 5%. 30% is still too much cut. Doesn’t convince me at all.
Why should I shut up because other all competitors which I don’t care have similar fees? I’m still not getting answer from you about lowering fees means lowering game process, which is core of my opinion. Why are you caring Valve’s profit margin so much? That’s Valve’s job and not customers concern.
And… why do you full trust with Valve? I mean we are just buying licenses to play … ok this will be a long tangent that I don’t want to stretch. Are you a Valve’s employee or Gabe himself? If not, why are you so zealous? I can’t get it at all.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 6 hours ago
I never told you to shut up you are good at putting words in peoples mouths I have noticed.
And no no, I don’t trust valve all the way. The licensing can be taken at any time in my opinion they have censorship issues and they said that about not being able to pass down games when you die. I dotn trust them all the way.
What bothers me is when people complain and cry about how Valve charges so much in fees when the entire gaming industry charges the exact same fee. And yet somehow PS and Xbox and GOG are always excluded from the conversation when it comes to this discussion.
You being upset at Valve doesn’t change the rest of the gaming industry. Also no, not charging the fees isn’t going to lower prices because just like the sales all of that is up to the publishers and developers nothing is stopping them from charging 30% extra to cover the fees and again they could absolutely host their own stuff and deal with payment processing fees, hosting fees, bank fees and all that without the exposure that every single competitor to valve gives them at the same exact price valve charges.
One of those gives you double the exposure than the other two combined though and I’ll let you guess which one that is.
tawaken@lemmy.world 5 hours ago
“I never told you to shut up you are good at putting words in peoples mouths I have noticed.” I mean look back your comments.
Again, I’m talking about 30% is high, and you say it’s not. Fine, then instead of looking into the details, you are trying to convincing me with what’s competitors doing, which I don’t care at all, with swears (not this time though).
I can’t get what you meant at 4th paragraph. No, Steam is heavily competitive market, which means lowering fees lowers price to compete. Even so, publishers and dev take excess sounds nice to me. Yes sir please develop more games. And… why I should care about exposures? I’m just a customer.
Skankhunt420@sh.itjust.works 5 hours ago
Ok I looked back at my comments and never did say that. Can you point out where I did?
And yes, 30% is what every competitor in that market that is making money charges which is why I say its strange and unwarranted that you only call Steam out for this. This is an industry standard.
And these publishers and developers can set the price to whatever they want. They could do 30% over the fees on just the steam store and less on other platforms like itch.io if they wanted to. They don’t owe anything to steam and they don’t have to use it, GOG, PlayStation or Xbox if they don’t want to. They could host and do all the payment processing on their own shiny website. There’s a reason they don’t do that.
Also, you’re an adult right? You should probably stay off message boards and any publicly used websites with comments if swear words hurt you so much. No one is forcing you to be here or engage just like no one is forcing you to use steam or put games on there.