Comment on Summoning the Beast of Big Pharma

• bobo@lemmy.ml ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  More like one of the sons of modern vaping. The steam chalice predates his experiments by a few decades, and it looks like a direct derivative.

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  • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    That’s fair, steam chalice became popular back in the 70’s. I’m splitting hairs by defining modern as an electronic device whose design was copied in essence by all future makers. The steam chalice was in every stoners head back then and informed a lot of innovation.

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    • bobo@lemmy.ml ⁨10⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      I’m splitting hairs by defining modern as an electronic device whose design was copied in essence by all future makers.

      The essence of every vape is to move hot air through the herb. In that regard it doesn’t matter how you heat it, so the chalice beats it out.

      As for the specific technology, aren’t the only designs that copied it in essence volcano like bag desktops? A tiny fraction of modern devices pushes air.

      Now compare that to the majority of modern vapes, from dyna and terpcicle, over ball vapes, to electric conduction and convection. All of them move the hot air by having the user draw it, just like the steam chalice.

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      • AWistfulNihilist@lemmy.world ⁨9⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        You make a really excellent argument! People have been in essence vaping weed via hookah and shisha for a long time. Mixing weed into your shisha doesn’t result in a full combustion. The steam chalice tweaked the design to remove the shisha, but it was still in essence the design borrowed from something that’s been used since antiquity. But it was still like the invention that basically every stoner in the world, let alone anyone who visited Jamaica, had in their head

        The modern electronic vape movement, which arguably started in coffee shops in Amsterdam in the 90’s, started introducing electronic temperature control. Which imo is what I mean when say modern vaping.

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