Comment on The horrible morals of a show supposed to teach them
ryan_harg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I really don’t think this post deserves all the downvotes. I mean I get how you might feel differently about all or some of the topics the OP brings to the table, but it’s not unfounded and certainly an interesting discussion.
For me, especially the part about sexism in Enterprise really resonated - I have always felt that this is among the worst aspects of the show. I also see points in mpst of the other criticism, although I think part of them can be interpreted differently. For example Section 31: Starfleet has not been a pure utopia since a long time, it’s at least bureaucratic most of the time, with an even dimmer view on it in later series. Section 31 fits in there for me. I don’t require stories to see the story through moral eyes, that can be a (sometimes painful) exercise left to the viewer. I don’t know how much and when this is intended by the series, though.
In any case, I think it’s well worth the discussion and ai’d like to thank the OP for the energy they spent in laying all this out.
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 year ago
Looking at OP’s history and conments…yeah those downvotes happened in context.
ryan_harg@discuss.tchncs.de 1 year ago
I don’t know what you want to highlight, unless it’s “a lot of people don’t like being confronted with discrimination”. I see OP is passionate about it. But what’s the problem there?
Taleya@aussie.zone 1 year ago
They’re not interested in progression, or resolution, just ranting at perceived wrongs. It’s the standard outrage trope parading as morality.
Every single relationship they see is ‘toxic’. Every action is labelled as ‘toxic’. They literally rant on the immorality of actions that within the ahow itself are painted as being not only bad, but right over the moral event horizon and accelerating as if it’s some astounding revelation only they can see and must bring to the attention of the blind stupid masses.
We all know the fandom kind. It’s a blinkered childish media consumption that only see the most basic of surface levels and brands anything they personally dislike or can’t understand as bad.
I pointed out the fault is in their misconception that trek ‘teaches motals’, it is simply a television franchise. Their measured response was to accuse me of enabling oppression. Ain’t nobody got time for this sort of ridiculousness in fandom spaces.