Comment on Is the damsel in distress trope just independent?
jannaultheal@lemmy.world 4 days agoI think it goes deeper than that. There are people who disagree with the axiom of choice, finitists who disagree with the axiom of infinity, etc. But it’s a proven theorem (not independent) that ZFC proves the existence of uncountably infinite sets, non-measurable sets, etc. On the other hand, ZFC doesn’t prove nor disprove CH.
So it’s much deeper than merely “people are different and think different things”.
woop_woop@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I think you’ve got that backwards. “People are different and think different things” is the constant and the rest of what’s you’re drilling into is an attempt to discover the pattern in it.
So let’s go Socratic: why are you asking this?
jannaultheal@lemmy.world 4 days ago
I want to understand why some women seem to enjoy movies and video games that use the damsel in distress trope, despite knowing that in feminist theory it’s often considered harmful. I realized that Godel and Cohen proved a very similar result and wonder if their techniques can be applied here as well
Actually, now that I think of it, we can add axioms to ZFC that decide CH. For example, V=L implies it’s true, and proper forcing axioms imply that it’s false. Can we also add additional axioms to decide whether or not the damsel in distress trope is harmless fun, or sexist against women?
woop_woop@lemmy.world 4 days ago
The answer is that people of any demographic are not homogeneous and will have different beliefs and values. Your question is too high level to go any deeper than that. The rest of the nonsense you’re couching it behind is useless. People are people. Sonder.
jannaultheal@lemmy.world 4 days ago
Yes but I still think it goes deeper than that. Is there any analogue of axioms that can be added to ZFC that decide CH, like V=L and proper forcing axioms as I pointed out?