Comment on Is it possible to be a leftist, but still really enjoy capitalism?

• dogbert@lemmy.zip ⁨23⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

  A form of capitalism…

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  • nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ⁨19⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

    From Wikipedia:

    Social democracy is a social, economic, and political philosophy within socialism that supports political and economic democracy and a gradualist, reformist, and democratic approach toward achieving social equality.

    While it is not an objective definition, I think it is a valid point of view to see social democracy rather as a reformist variant socialism than capitalism.

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    • dogbert@lemmy.zip ⁨15⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

      Read a book. Social democracy is a reformation of capitalism, not socialism. It is literally a process that starts with a capitalist country. No country has ever started with socialism and then reverted to social democracy. It is a stage of capitalism making concessions to the working class.

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      • nimpnin@sopuli.xyz ⁨14⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        If you were well-read in socialism, you’d know that there are a lot of disagreeing factions, and those disagreements include semantic ones over what is and isn’t socialism.

        So you tell me, what is socialism? Is marxist-leninism socialism? Is Cuba socialist? Current-day China? Mao’s China? Rojava? Would a society organized in worker co-ops be socialist?

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