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barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

Say anything about Microsoft or Windows? Here’s 15 commenters telling you how much better they are for having Linux,

Eh. That’s like the repeat of “Reddit is an anti-American circlejerk”: No, it isn’t. Never was. It was simply the place where many Americans first learned that people who live beyond the brim of their burgers actually exist, and have opinions.

You’re on a FLOSS platform. Don’t be surprised if fanboying for an aggressively monopolistic multinational with inferior technology, held up by duct tape and bribes to system integrators, doesn’t make you friends.

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Stuka@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
Uhh yeah no. I was in reddit for over a decade and the anti-american circle jerk (that is alive and kicking on lrmmy, btw) became much worse over the last few years.

Lemmy loves to pretend it’s superior to reddit, but now we’ve just concentrated the elitists and political extremists into a smaller pool of users.

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- barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  No, neither reddit or lemmy are anti-American. Not even unamerican. It’s much, much worse: They’re non-American. Reddit by I think a small majority, lemmy much more so.
  
  If, then, a random jingoist Seppo comes along and considers themselves and their dysfunctional country god’s gift to humanity, well, it’s easy to predict how much people will cheer that on.
  
  Add to that another, equally exceptionalist, breed of Seppos, just that those don’t think the US is the greatest thing to ever grace humankind, but the worst. That’s not anti-American either, they’re still exceptionalist and they’re still Seppos. Hexbear and lemmygrad are full of them.
  
  Also y’all don’t get what taking the piss entails.
  
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mob@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
I agree with the sentiment that we are on a FLOSS platform, so most people are going to prefer Linux.

But the rest of that comment is silly.

Saying anything about Windows/Max doesn’t mean the commenter is fanboying.

Also, are you saying you dont believe social media was manipulated to interfere with American politics?

And the last one really cracks me up about making friends. “Aggressively fanboying” Windows or Mac doesn’t make you friends, but fanboying Linux does? You and I are definitely in different areas of CS then ha!

I think “fanboying” in general is the actual issue

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- barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
  
  Also, are you saying you dont believe social media was manipulated to interfere with American politics?
  
  I sense a veritable iceberg of a conspiracy theory, there: You think Reddit and lemmy are “anti-american” so as to influence American politics?
  
  Pretty much anyone outside of the US doesn’t need an ulterior motive, be given money or whatever to talk shit about the US: You’re providing ample of reason and opportunity to do that as is, there’s no need to get the Russians or whoever involved. Also they’re only stoking flames (on both sides and a couple more), without a base level of idiocy they would have nothing to work with.
  
  “Aggressively fanboying” Windows or Mac doesn’t make you friends, but fanboying Linux does? You and I are definitely in different areas of CS then ha!
  
  …you’re in CS but not a developer or devops? You work at a soul-sucking job writing software for machinery or such that for have to run windows? Like, dunno, ATMs? And you and your colleagues developed Stockholm Syndrome?
  
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  - mob@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    I don’t have to run windows, or anything. I can run what I want.
    
    But the people who shoehorn Linux into every conversation are also the ones who spend more time finding acceptance online rather than actually being “friends” with people IRL. Tbh, I have you coined for a stereotype I know and I apologize about that. I can’t help it. I just know mfers who talk like you are commenting so my bad if I attach opinions to you, I really don’t mean to. That’s why I’m trying to ask questions.
    
    But you do not believe social media is manipulated then, and is just a conspiracy theory? I never accused any party of being behind the manipulations and I haven’t provided any theoretical motivations. Just wondered if you believed social media is an accurate portrayal of the populations opinions.
    
    Also, mfers try to act superior cause they got Linux, that’s why they “get a negative reaction”. Look how you are reacting to someone just mentioning the idea of mentioning windows ha!
    
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    barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    Just wondered if you believed social media is an accurate portrayal of the populations opinions.
    
    …of the population of the people using it, mostly, yes. Of course, we’ll never know what the lurkers think. None of it should be used for statistical analysis but you’ll get a reasonable spread of opinions deemed acceptable in a particular place – for example, on lemmy you’ll be hard-pressed to find Nazis or Trumpets as no admin wants to deal with that kind of headache. Tankies, too, can be readily seen to run a manipulative agenda and they’re not entirely welcome. Frankly speaking influencing stuff just by posting is rather hard, to have to influence content discovery algorithms (which are dumb as bread in lemmy’s case and that’s good).
    
    Also, mfers try to act superior cause they got Linux, that’s why they “get a negative reaction”.
    
    Dude I’ve been running Linux as my primary desktop since the early 2000s, I’m too old for that shit. Back in the days I was a freshly-baked programmer tinkering around everywhere, by now I largely simply want a system that a) works out of the box in a sensible manner and that b) I can mess with if required. I also have a windows installation for a game or the other and the occasional testing of builds and believe me it certainly doesn’t fulfil a) and b), well, I don’t know it well enough and the documentation sucks.
    
    The usual context I see Linux mentioned in on lemmy is gaming, or in context of just what at shitshow Windows 11 is regarding ads and whatnot. That’s not shoehorning.
    
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    CrypticCoffee@lemmy.world ⁨7⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago
    
    But the people who shoehorn Linux into every conversation are also the ones who spend more time finding acceptance online rather than actually being “friends” with people IRL. Tbh, I have you coined for a stereotype I know and I apologize about that. I can’t help it. I just know mfers who talk like you are commenting so my bad if I attach opinions to you, I really don’t mean to. That’s why I’m trying to ask questions.
    
    Can you give an example of people shoehorning Linux into conversations? Usually the only comment I see is already on Linux, and it’s the Arch btw’s, which is a meme in itself. Maybe you need to search for subs you like, and subscribe to them, and have subscribed as the default view. All may not be your cup of tea, like all was never my cup of tea on reddit. You’re not always going to be in the majority view, and that is fine.
    
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