Comment on An AI Just Attempted Murder... Allegedly... by SomeOrdinaryGamers [21:15 min] Video
spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org 1 day agoIf it had the power to do so it would have killed someone
right…the problem isn’t the chatbot, it’s the people giving the chatbot power and the ability to affect the real world.
thought experiment: I’m paranoid about home security, so I set up a booby-trap in my front yard, such that if someone walks through a laser tripwire they get shot with a gun.
if it shoots a UPS delivery driver, I am obviously the person culpable for that.
now, I add a camera to the setup, and configure an “AI” to detect people dressed in UPS uniforms and avoid pulling the trigger in that case.
but my “AI” is buggy, so a UPS driver gets shot anyway.
if a news article about that claimed “AI attempts to kill UPS driver” it would obviously be bullshit.
the actual problem is that I took a loaded gun and gave a computer program the ability to pull the trigger. it doesn’t really matter whether that computer program was 100 lines of Python running on a Raspberry Pi or an “AI” running on 100 GPUs in some datacenter somewhere.
yozul@beehaw.org 1 day ago
No, you completely missed the point. I don’t disagree with any of that. I think you are right. It just doesn’t matter. At all. If an AI is made by thousands of people over the course of a decade and run in a billion dollar data center no one will ever be held accountable for it’s actions. There is no intent in the AI or in the inhuman systems of humans that led to its creation.
I’m not arguing that AIs have intent. I’m arguing that talking about the “intent” is a dangerous distraction from talking about what is happening and what we could do to prevent it.
MotoAsh@piefed.social 8 hours ago
It DOES matter. Directly. Fully.
If people think that the unthinking “AI” actually has autonomy, they will be less likely to hold the people responsible to account.
Why do you not understand that? It is a critical fact of the matter that modern day “AI” does not think nor want, because then responsibility of its actions should then rightfully fall on to who set up the Rube Goldberg machine with machetes on it.
This is not a machine going postal. It’s a dangerous product they’ve been allowed to sell.
yozul@beehaw.org 4 hours ago
Jesus fucking christ how stupid are you people. You’re going to lose. We’re going to die because all the idiots in opposition to power are trying to defeat a massive, inhuman system of oppression and power accumulation with semantics and half-baked philosophy debates. We’re fucking doomed, and we deserve it.