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I have been deeply opposed to the social media laws. Then I went back deleting my posts on another site and noticed I supported such a policy. I understand the reasoning behind it and I just was angry at the prospect of needing to give Google my ID.

However, including YouTube in the ban is beyond ridiculous. May as well ban Netflix and Sky News at that point.

Then there’s the new age-checking on porn which is absolutely wild. Firstly it was passed without new legislation, but more importantly it is deeply invasive in how it’s to be enforced. I see the reasoning behind this too, but it’s as if they’re trying to stop even determined users from accessing it and once you get to that level it’s crossing a line.

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prex@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
The implementation sounds like a nightmare. Also where does the age checking stop? Whirlpool.net.au? Lemmy?
Having parental controls that work would fix the problem without hassling every adult in the country. Super suss.

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- Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Yeah, as I understand it it applies to Lemmy too. I forgot about that. If it were up to me I’d definitely only include the big players. I haven’t yet processed the fact that Lemmy may go away.
  
  As for parental controls, the issue is that it could create conflict within the family. Kids are going to HAAAAAATE this policy, he wants to be the noble sacrifice (I forgot the exact word for this) so the kids don’t hate their parents.
  
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- prex@aussie.zone ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Apart from that I think Albo’s great.
  
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Ilandar@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

However, including YouTube in the ban is beyond ridiculous.

The ridiculous thing is that it’s not a “ban” at all in the case of some platforms, like YouTube. If you don’t need an account to use it, as is the case with YouTube, the ban does nothing. You still get served recommendations via an algorithm whilst signed out, the algorithm still favours engagement (clickbait, outrage, extreme views), the overwhelming majority of content on the platform is not age-gated and can still be viewed by children without an account, etc.

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- Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  I completely forgot YouTube had an algorithm TBH. I use an extension to block all the recommendations.
  
  You’re right though, assuming the legislation only bans users with accounts (can’t be bothered double checking) that’s the worst of both worlds. I guess there would be ways to create a subscription feed without an account and that may be able to circumvent the ban. Maybe I should put together a site that does that.
  
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  - Ilandar@lemmy.today ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    
    assuming the legislation only bans users with accounts
    
    It requires the providers of social media platforms that full under the legislation to take reasonable steps to prevent users under the age of 16 from having an account with the platform (this is very close to the actual wording used). The media’s reporting on this has been very lazy and misleading because it’s clearly not a complete ban, as has been repeatedly suggested. You can also use TikTok without an account and it will also still continue to provide algorithmic recommendations.
    
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    Tenderizer@aussie.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
    THEN THERE’S NO BLOODY POINT.
    
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