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brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks agoYes, they have. They are late.
But 18A and 14A are still good, considering the capacity shortages everyone’s facing.
In terms of designs, Arc is good, the small cores are good, the big cores are… not as good, but fine as long as they aren’t clocked to the moon. They canceled a lot of stuff like Gaudi and Xe HPC, but that’s water under the bridge now.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
I think rapidly “server” is becoming GPU and “user” is becoming power-efficient (but still fast) Arm chips.
I wouldn’t want to go down with the Xeon and desktop/laptop ship.
I know how critical I sound and there’s a case for Intel to make sensitive (read: defense) chips domestically, but they need a good kick in the pants, not sweetheart deals.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
On the contrary, I think inference is going on-device more in the future, but ‘users’ will still need decent CPUs and GPUs. Intel is well set up for this: they have good CPU, GPU, and NPU IP.
Intel can go ARM if they want, no problem, just like AMD can (and almost tried). They could theoretically preserve most of their core design and still switch ISA.
Servers will still need CPUs for a long time.
As for GPU compute, we are both in a bubble, and at several forks in the road:
Is bitnet ML going to take off? If it does, that shifts the advantage to almost cyptominer-like ASICs, as expensive matrix multiplication no longer matters for inference.
Otherwise, what about NPUs? Huawei is already using them, and even training good production models with them. Intel can try their hand at this game again if loads start shifting away from CUDA.
Otherwise, they still have a decent shot at the CUDA ecosystem via ZLUDA and their own frameworks. Training and research will probably forever be Nvidia (and some niches like Cerebra’s), but still.
resipsaloquitur@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Maybe I’ve been in a silo but I’ve never heard “intel” and “npu” in the same breath.
brucethemoose@lemmy.world 4 weeks ago
Because it’s only used for crappy copilot stuff right now, heh.
But technically the Gaudi 2 processors they bought and developed are server ‘NPUs’. Last I heard, they’re putting them on ice, but they may have integrated the tech into laptop processors anyway, and could scale it back up if Huawei’s NPUs take off.