Comment on A real question about trans athletes and records

• arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

  The numbers you are using I've only seen from that letter made by people complaining about her, frequently posted everywhere by conservative sources. Also, it's fucking obvious she'd have slower times. That is the entire purpose of requiring trans atheletes to be on hormones for a couple years.

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  • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

    You missed the point about the slower times. The point was that the times of a ~500 ranked male are faster than the times of the number 1 ranked female. You don’t see how this is a problem with trans men competing against women?

    Thomas’ times only decreased by roughly 2-3% after transition. Male swimmers are on average 10-15% faster than women’s. This shows that male physical advantage doesn’t just disappear, as should be obvious simply by looking at the physical differences between males and females.

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    • arcterus@piefed.blahaj.zone ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago

      It's obvious you don't actually have a researched opinion since you just used the wrong term for a trans woman (they said trans men, in case they edit it).

      You seem to, once again, be ignoring that on top of the decrease from transitioning, they are still a human being, and thus age and practice like any other human being. From sophomore year to their redshirt senior year, they grew, trained, etc. like any athlete. Expecting them to just drop 15% or whatever from their sophomore time and never improve from that is completely idiotic.

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      • FreedomAdvocate@lemmy.net.au ⁨22⁩ ⁨hours⁩ ago

        It’s obvious you don’t actually have a researched opinion since you just used the wrong term for a trans woman (they said trans men, in case they edit it).

        Where?

        You seem to, once again, be ignoring that on top of the decrease from transitioning, they are still a human being, and thus age and practice like any other human being. From sophomore year to their redshirt senior year, they grew, trained, etc. like any athlete. Expecting them to just drop 15% or whatever from their sophomore time and never improve from that is completely idiotic.

        I didn’t ignore any of that lol. You’re missing the point. Again - 500th ranked male time is faster than all female times. Post “transition”, still faster than all females. Went from a “bad” mens swimmer to the best womens swimmer while swimming basically the same times as pre-transition. There’s nothing to say that even if Lia didn’t “transition” that he would have improved his times.

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