Comment on 'Ad Blocking is Not Piracy' Decision Overturned By Top German Court
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 days ago
Of course torrentfreak would use the most outrageous & clickbaity title possible. It’s not so bad though.
Discussed in another post:
I speak German legalese (don’t ask) so I went to the actual source and read up on the decision.
The way I read it, the higher court simply stated that the Appeals court didn’t consider the impact of source code to byte code transformation in their ruling, meaning they had not provided references justifying the fact they had ignored the transformation. Their contention is that there might be protected software in the byte code, and if the ad blocker modified the byte code (either directly or by modifying the source), then that would constitute a modification of code and hence run afoul of copyright protections as derivative work.
Sounds more like, “Appeals court has to do their homework” than “ad blockers illegal.”
The ruling is a little painful to read, because as usual the courts are not particularly good at technical issues or controversies, so don’t quote me on the exact details. In particular, they use the word Vervielfältigung a lot, which means (mass) copy, which is definitely not happening here. The way it reads, Springer simply made the case that a particular section of the ruling didn’t have any reasoning or citations attached and demanded them, which I guess is fair. More billable hours for the lawyers! @
grue@lemmy.world 2 days ago
No, it’s even worse than people realize.
This isn’t just about ad-blocking; it’s about computer owners’ fundamental property rights (or lack thereof). It shouldn’t fucking matter if the ad-blocker modifies the website’s code, because both pieces of software are running on the owner’s machine and he has the right to modify his property in any way he sees fit.
It is no different than a book owner crossing out printed text and writing in the margins: that copy of the book is his modify as he wants, and copyright doesn’t fucking enter into it as all because there’s no copying or distribution happening to begin with.
What the German court gas done here is opened the door to copyright holders trying to colonize shit they don’t own, stealing control from the actual owners.
A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 days ago
I agree: website owners cannot tell people how to read their sites.
But they only re-opened the case; nothing happened yet.
And considering how the very similar youtube-dl DMCA takedown failed so utterly, I don’t think this will go anywhere either.
But yeah, companies will try again and again.
There’s also an important point not addressed in the above comment: Springer is specifically sueing Adblock Plus (and not the way more popular uBO) who have a commercial model where companies can pay them to let their ads through, and some other fishy practices.
grue@lemmy.world 1 day ago
But see, that’s what I’m saying: the court was wrong to consider that 25th box a thing that needed ticking to begin with. There was nothing that needed re-opening because if the computer owner’s property rights were as secure as they’re supposed to be the reason given for sending the case back to the lower court should’ve been considered irrelevant!