Comment on AI Art.

dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

• s12@sopuli.xyz ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  I mean… if you were to actually assist with the baking or plumbing, or drive the car; you could technically be an assistant baker, an assistant plumber, or a car driver.

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  • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    You are completely missing the point.

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• Pro@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

  Straight out of AI mouth:

  Using AI is no different than using Photoshop or a camera—you’re still the artist steering the vision, selecting, and refining the outcome, not just placing an order.

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  • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    you could have just actually engage with the comment? Did AI already took your capability of thinking?

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    • Pro@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Maybe you are already arguing with AI?

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      • DmMacniel@feddit.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        so much is clear.

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  • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This is embarrassing.

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    • Pro@programming.dev ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      Thanks, DontBelieveThis!

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      • dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

        You are welcome, “Pro”.

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  • Zangoose@lemmy.world ⁨3⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    If I wanted an AI’s “opinion” I would have just asked it directly

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  • Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    Absolutely 100% wrong. You’re placing an order in the faint hope of the result being “just about” what you wanted. Demands for small changes usually result in tons of weird side effects. You’re not in control, and daring to compare it to actual photo editing or photography is cocky at best.

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    • CarbonIceDragon@pawb.social ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

      I’d argue it depends a lot on exactly how the AI is used. Just putting in a text prompt and accepting the output with minimal or no edits doesn’t seem much different from essentially commissioning the computer to make something for you, but I’ve also seen some people use some of the AI tools for modifying images (like the ones that “expand” them by generating stuff the AI thinks fits around the edge, or that let one add something into a selected area or fill an area in based on what’s around it) a great many times over to shift an image towards a desired result in a way that at least from timelapse looked like it would require some time and familiarity with the tools. A bit like how asking someone to take a photo for you doesn’t make you an artist, but selecting a bunch of photos you didn’t take and using them to make a collage or something arguably might.

      Honestly I suspect that once this whole AI bubble dies down, there will be a shift in generative AI from just trying to make it create art entirely on it’s own towards finding ways for humans to make art out of whatever becomes of the tech, partly because artists are nothing if not creative, and partly because in addition to just knowing the muscle memory and physical mechanics of making art, an artist is also going to have a sense of what does and doesn’t look good that develops as they learn, and can try to shape an idea to fit, while the machine might just give you whatever it calculates fits the prompt even if following the prompt won’t look very good without some tweaking.

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  • KAtieTot@lemmy.blahaj.zone ⁨2⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

    This argument is shit and doesn’t understand what’s involved with photoshop or photography. Ai is little more than a sufficiently advanced chatbot.

    With Photoshop you’re personally creating the end product in your vision. Sure there are tools to simplify some of the tasks involved but it takes knowledge and understanding and skill.

    With photography, you are taking a still from the real world. It is difficult and requires knowledge abd understanding and skill. photography is, shutter timing, ISO speed, lighting, relative positioning, perspective, Depth of Field, etc.

    Typing a prompt into gen AI takes nothing and what comes out is a program guessing what you want. Fuck you for not even bothering to argue for yourself.

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