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I don’t see how I could’ve “moved the goalpost” any more than you are doing right now.

This right here is moving the goalpost:

I also struggle to see how the scientific achievements required going to the moon (Besides learning about earth/moon origin). The other achievements like wireless tools and head seats did not require a moon landing.

Where in my comment that consisted of quoting your question and providing two links that answer that question did I address any of this?

Moving the goalposts is an informal fallacy in which evidence presented in response to a specific claim is dismissed (the links provided to address the specific quotation from you) and some other (often greater) evidence is demanded (“how the scientific achievements required going to the moon”).

Who’s to say the technology would’ve been made w/out the moon landing?

I assume you meant wouldn’t have been made without the moon landing? Either way, this is tacitly acknowledges the technological improvements made as a result which would be “good for the average man”.

See how this is a pointless argument we’re both making?

I’m not arguing with you. You asked the question and I provided links with answers to counter the allusion you were attempting to make that it didn’t do “the average man” any good.

As I already stated, what you seem to want to debate is whether it should have happened and your about 60 years late for that discussion. I have no interest in arguing that with you or anyone because it happened and that’s not going to change.

And btw the first question isn’t an argument or my main idea. It’s a question added for emphasis.

Yea, and it’s a poor question, which is why I addressed it specifically. The moon landing and the space race leading up to it led to numerous advances and improvements for everyone, including “the average man” (sexist language by the way).

Using that question for emphasis is disingenuous and attempts to minimize all of the advancement that occurred as a byproduct.

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alcibiades@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
Bro it doesn’t make you sound smart to use words like “fallacy” and “tacitly” 💔 I don’t need “moving the goalpost” defined to me.

Tbh we operating on two different wavelengths. Let’s end it with this

My original question was poorly worded, not fully thought out, and in the most literal sense was wrong. And yeah it does minimize all advancement made as a byproduct, that was the point of such a question.

The argument that I am trying to tell you is not related to just the moon landing. It is a response to the original commenter who, in my opinion, implied that there was something greater about space exploration post-war. I think that it was a result of the USA’s imperialist and capitalist goals. Those goals (as they always do) lined up with the goals of the wealthiest and most powerful (non-politician) people of the time. Space exploration today isnt less exciting because billionaires have too much power. They still had a shit ton of power post-war and still ran the country.

I believe that the space exploration boom was because it was an opportunity to gain capital and win an ideological battle. In 2025 space does not fill that role.
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- LilB0kChoy@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
  
  Bro it doesn’t make you sound smart to use words like “fallacy” and “tacitly” 💔
  
  I’m sorry I have a vocabulary? You should let people know you struggle with big words.
  
  I don’t need “moving the goalpost” defined to me.
  
  You clearly do since you didn’t recognize when you did it.
  
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  - alcibiades@sh.itjust.works ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    Are you not “moving the goalposts” by focusing solely on me making fun of your language and the definition of the phrase instead of the original discussion? You are dismissing my claims and demanding I talk about how smart you tried to make yourself sound.
    
    And the reason I pointed out your language is because it sounds so different than your first comment that it’s obvious that you took it from somewhere else (you literally copy/pasted Wikipedia’s definition of “moving the goalposts” you aren’t slick lol)
    
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    LilB0kChoy@midwest.social ⁨1⁩ ⁨day⁩ ago
    
    Are you not “moving the goalposts” by focusing solely on me making fun of your language and the definition of the phrase instead of the original discussion? You are dismissing my claims and demanding I talk about how smart you tried to make yourself sound.
    
    Do you need the definition provided again? I’m responding to the insult you started your last reply with. I addressed the parts that I had something to say about. I don’t really care what your opinion on the moon landing is. Certainly not enough to argue with you about it; just your garbage question.
    
    And the reason I pointed out your language is because it sounds so different than your first comment that it’s obvious that you took it from somewhere else
    
    My first post which was a quote and two links? I’m sorry you struggle to use longer words but not everybody does.
    
    (you literally copy/pasted Wikipedia’s definition of “moving the goalposts” you aren’t slick lol)
    
    I did. Do you get mad when people provide a definition from a Dictionary too?
    
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