Is there any form of “mandatory” saving in the US? I know you guys have company pension plans of some sort, is there a government version?
Eg where I live, Australia, employers are required to put in 10 percent of an employee’s wages into a superannuation fund. This is basically “invisible” to workers, it’s a cost that’s factored into the cost to have an employee basically. The superannuation fund can be a “default” one selected by the business, or an employee nominated one, and you can transfer/roll over your accumulated funds between any superannuation fund you like as you hop between jobs. You can draw from it in some specific dire circumstances, but usually you can only access it at retirement age.
It seems that a lot of things in the US are carefully designed to keep you in servitude to your current employer, which I find a little ironic coming from the land of the free.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
That’s essentially what social security is, but it’s constantly being attacked with death by a thousand cuts, so most people under 50 don’t really expect to see much of a return.
dgriffith@aussie.zone 8 months ago
It’s pretty much the opposite in Australia with our setup. Those starting work now will end up with the required 3-ish million at retirement if they work the standard average job here for most of their life.
But I think what you refer to as “social security” is the government “aged pension” here which is about $550 a week or so. That’s enough for a pensioner to live a very modest lifestyle here if their accommodation has been sorted previously.
It’s also suffering the same kind of squeeze you mention and is means-tested on a sliding scale so the more you can afford not to have it, the less you get of it.
Right now most boomers are on the aged pension to some degree because superannuation schemes here only really kicked in during the last 15-20 years of their working lives so they didn’t have much of a balance.
Probably in the next 30 years or so only the truly destitute will be able to get it and the rest of us will have to rely on what we’ve saved.
FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 months ago
Do you get the pension if you don’t put into the system? I was self-employed for years, and didn’t pay into the social security system for those years because I really couldn’t afford to since my business was so modest and I was the only employee. So my SS payout will be minuscule, whereas my wife, who has worked for public libraries since leaving university, will get a small but useful if not survivable check every month. So basically if you don’t pay in, you don’t get to have a retirement pension from the government.
I’m lucky because I stand to inherit a sizable amount of money when my mother passes away that I can save for retirement, but most people aren’t that lucky and will have to live on scraps.
dgriffith@aussie.zone 8 months ago
Yes it’s paid for via general income tax here in Australia, not something you pay into yourself per se. So even if you never worked you still get it.
Which is why the government set up superannuation schemes in the '90s because they realised a pinch point was coming down the line in the 2030’s or so. At that time there would have been too many people on the pension for it to be sustainable.