Comment on What kind of upbringing makes an incel?
nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world 8 months agoThis is what I mean. You’re just saying that what incels experience is a lack of love/companionship. Exactly the same thing that incels demand from women. You’re both just looking at the same solution, of how to give these boys company. That they are caught between a rock and a hard place.
But that’s exactly what the man-o-sphere is telling these people. Your analysis is no different than what Andrew tate, Jordan peterson, etc. would say. That feminism has caused a shift in society that leads to a lack of family values, commitment, common sense, etc. That the freedom women have are detrimental, because they now have the freedom to deny you that love and companionship.
What are you going to say now? Because not a word is an explicit lie here. Feminism has caused more divorce, more freedom for women, greater self worth for women, sexual freedom, higher demands on men. It’s just true. So the type of superficially gesturing at boys lacking companionship is only just helping incels into the pipeline. It means nothing, it’s not an analysis. You’re completely missing the point.
bouh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
No. I am absolutely not saying that.
I am saying that the usual way men and women get together is an old patriarcal way. And thus, when a man look into how to get into a relationship, he is dragged into this shit hole.
Hence, society needs to change the way men and women date and seduce eachother so that this way is healthier, more feminist.
Somehow the only answer people have is “get used to being alone” or “stop being a shitty person”. That’s a short sighted and stupid answer to the problem.
Can you understand that? Or do you must always fall back on the irrelevant privileges stuff?
It is not a superficial problem. It is the root of how men and women interact together. Turning a blind eye on it only serves the fascists you named.
nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world 8 months ago
Sorry but you’re just rewriting the same problem of these boys lacking companionship and femism is to blame for it. Sorry but it’s just a lack of understanding on your part.
The loss of privilege is exactly what is causing the perceived problem of a lack of companionship/love. It’s again, the main foundation of any critique. I’m totally not aware of anybody except people in the manosphere itself who critique the problem like you do.
You’re absolutely incorrect.
bouh@lemmy.world 8 months ago
You’re trolling at this point.
nicetomeetyouIMVEGAN@lemmings.world 8 months ago
You’re the one who says that inceldom can be cured by dating them in a ‘feminist’ way.
Get right out of here with claiming I’m the troll.