Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
Is it wierd for me to not want people to be chosen for a responsability that has nothing to do with gender (unlike actors and actresses, were the character being played usually is gendered) based on their gender?
If there is a gender inequality problem in this, I bet it’s the same as a lot of other areas with a similar kind of gender inequality: were people are given opportunities based on who they know and who their parents are - i.e. Cronyism - and those networks of mates mainly contain people of the male gender because of the enviroments were the form and the profession currently being dominated by that gender. However such an environment doesn’t explicitly disciminate against women, it discriminates against anybody who isn’t friend with the “right people” or doesn’t have the “right parents”, quite independently of them being male or female.
Maybe “Financial Mentors” should invest in Unknown Filmmakers in a gender agnostic way and “Take a Risk” - I bet that a lot of great new filmmakers who aren’t part of the “mates network” and happen to be female would gain from it, right alongside those who happen to not be female.
dil@hexbear.net 4 days ago
Honestly, “gender shouldn’t be relevant when it’s not relevant” is in the same vein as “all lives matter.”
Yeah. No shit.
Implying those statements are contentious is either ignorant or in bad faith.
Nepotism is a problem, sure, but racism and misogyny are also problems.
We should fix all the problems, and that’s a fight on many fronts. We should support anyone fighting for equal treatment.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 days ago
The article itself clearly and unambiguously wants gender-specific hiring, so clearly some people believe that the problems of Discrimination are solved by Discriminating in a different direction.
The way I see it, more Discrimination with different beneficiaries is not an easy shortcut to fix the problems of Discrimination and the only way to fix it is the hard work of cracking down on the causes of Discrimination.
Judging not just by this Article and also by many discussions I’ve that view is definitely contentious, often because people think that “counter”-Discrimination will correct the effects of past Discrimination, which at times it does, only it does so by moving the problem around as the new Discrimination is itself unfair for both people who were never victims of the past Discrimination and don’t deserve the gains they will now get and for those who never gained from past Discrimination and are now unfairly sidelined by the new Discrimination.
dil@hexbear.net 4 days ago
This is not “past” discrimination. This is happening today.
We are CURRENTLY in a situation where women are discriminated against, and that’s a problem. Men who are less qualified are being hired over women who are more qualified. Denying that is either ignorance or bad faith.
The solution to that problem is to hire more women.
Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
We are CURRENTLY in a situation where people from the “wrong” social groups are discriminated against, and that’s a problem. People who are less qualified are being hired over people who are more qualified. Denying that is either ignorance or bad faith.
The solution to that problem is to hire people ON MERIT ALONE
Gender is not merit and is not competence, and yet here you are claiming unironically that to “solve” the problem that people are chosen on the base of gender, people should be chosen on the base of gender.
How about making sure that people are not being chosen on the basis of gender?!
Your “solution” just moves the unfairness around, still hiring because of chromosses they were born with some who didn’t deserve to be hired and not hiring because of the chromossomes they were born with some other people who did deserve to be hired, fully preserving the unfairness of gender-based hiring, but being unfair for others (and not those who gained from previous unfairness, which would be just, just those who happen to have been born with the new “wrong” chromossomes).
As I wrote earlier, you can’t Discriminate your way out of Discrimination.