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Comment on I Believe That It's Important For All of Us to Understand What 'Decentralization' Truly Means. Please, Let's Talk About That

t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

I think this scoring system is missing Language as an important aspect of decentralization. Centralization happens not just through commercial hosting, but even through self-hosters being in a relatively centralized location, single jurisdiction, etc: an app with 300 self-hosted instances all located in one city is much easier to shut down than an app with those 300 spread across the globe, and language support is important to help facilitate that.

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jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
If we’re talking takedown-resistance, we may need to enter the dark web realm:

Tor hidden sites are inherently hard to pinpoint

ZeroNet was an interesting project, seems to be abandoned

I2P is like Tor on steroids, can publish all sorts of services

IPFS is a decentralized P2P storage system (best/worst known for NFTs)

~~FreeNet~~ Hyphanet is a 25+ years old distributed content system with limited support for services

FreeNet is… honestly, haven’t seen a working example, but it sounds interesting?

Matrix… if they manage to get things under control

Nostr is a censorship-resistant distributed messaging system

Hosting distribution and localization varies, but they all have features to make it hard to pinpoint host and/or client locations.
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- t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨5⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago
  Takedown resistance is a consequence of decentralization, but it’s not decentralization itself.
  
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