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Comment on Bluesky’s Quest to Build Nontoxic Social Media

I’m glad to see a lot of different people trying different models. I don’t think microblogging really has the capability of being nontoxic, but who knows? Maybe they’ll succeed where everyone else has failed. I certainly know we’re trying to have nontoxic social media around here, and we have plenty of issues at a much smaller scale.

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remington@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
We must have better moderation tools if we ever want this instance to grow.

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- SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  Maybe, but social problems cannot entirely be solved with technology.
  
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t3rmit3@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago

we have plenty of issues

I would venture to say that despite those issues, thanks to y’all’s moderation this space is non-toxic on the whole. It may be that size is a de-facto limit on maintaining a space like Beehaw, or it may be that we (as in, internet users) just haven’t figured out the best format/ structure for scaling up safely.

I think a microblogging platform that allows moderated, invite-only sub-groups (and which doesn’t show you any posts by users or groups you don’t subscribe to) could be a good step towards that. Sort of a combination of BlueSky feed + Beehaw communities/ FB groups. That could give you a Beehaw-like moderation experience in a microblog platform.

I think most microblogging platforms’ failure in this area likely stems from them being ad and engagement-driven, and their corporate “need” for users to be more and more active across “interest domains”, clashing with their users’ need to stay isolated from users who are toxic to them.

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- SweetCitrusBuzz@beehaw.org ⁨6⁩ ⁨days⁩ ago
  
  clashing with their users’ need to stay isolated from users who are toxic to them.
  
  Sadly Lemmy does not solve this problem as the creators think like a corporation or do not want to be fully cut off from other users and thus do not have proper blocking (which is something built into ActivityPub mind you), for now it is only one way blocking which does not solve being isolated from toxic users as it still allows for some toxic behaviour etc.
  
  If Lemmy ever gets that feature it would actually prove that it is dedicated to user safety, but a lot of people in the open source social media world seem to be ‘concerned’ with not being able to see everything due to entitlement, as others unrelated to Lemmy also are lacking the same or similar features.
  
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