Comment on UK businesses still ‘reluctant to invest’ over Brexit and interest rates
jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months agoAustralia, or where ever, will export where export it is profitable to do so. The problem is not just the lower meat standard, but the unfairness on British farmers still at a higher standard and unable to operate at the same scale. We need food security so can’t just let British farmers go to the wall.
I have high hopes of cultured meat, precision fermentation and vertical farms. I like to product most/all food outside of nature like this. Controlling input and outputs and return all that farm land to nature to fight climate change. But we aren’t there yet.
Maybe this a Lemmy thing, but your sources come to me as just an image link. There is no context of the article or paper they are from. To source properly, you should do the page link as well or instead of just the graph you want.
As for my own sources, literally just today’s Brexit import problem news : theguardian.com/…/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-cha…
First result of all the factors mentioned: inews.co.uk/…/uk-recession-wrong-economy-brexit-p…
To think Brexit is a success, you can’t be reading / listening to any of the same podcasts or newpapers as me.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Those import charges are a non tariff barrier on food imports, it makes imports more expensive relative to UK produce. It makes things like controlled environment and regenerative agriculture more feasible. Net good. Brexit benefit
Your inews link is from 2022. The UK did not enter a recession so the entire premise is invalid.
You are not listening. The ONS revised the GDP numbers, you are living in the past, the facts have changed, change your mind. Or fuck off, your choice
commonslibrary.parliament.uk/…/sn02784/
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jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Yer, that “Lexit” (acturally Tory Brexit) has increased our product costs because some parts are from Germany without an equivalent. Trade barrier wasn’t the Brexit sold to many, though, yes was sold to others. All things to all people.
The links was 2022, and yes, things have been revised since then to be less bad. Still not good.
The reason I said to share links was exactly this. You didn’t share the “GDP growth in recent years” graph. Only the ones of the last few quarters. Really we’d want graphs from 2016 pre-result to current day. But a lazy search didn’t find one. Sure I’ve seen one, but can’t find it, so may as well not exist. Point is it accumulates, so the longer you look, the better picture you get.
It’s not just me and us Remoaners saying Brexit is bad. en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Economic_effects_of_Brexit
We’re a laughing stock, only it’s not fun when you live here.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Sigh
2nd in 2016, 2nd in 2022.
No change, no effect.
You don’t accept facts.
data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?locat…
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jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Better look from 2000, so you can see 2008, which is why Brexit and Trump happened. Economic chaos causes political chaos.
data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CD?amp%3…
You can see it hit the UK worse in 2008. Question is, would the UK have normalized to where it was relative to others if 2016 hadn’t gone as it did.
People have looked at exactly that. newstatesman.com/…/john-springford-britain-remain…
I’ve never voted for a Conservative. Remain was not Conservative. It was a stupid gamble by Cameron to keep his party together. Instead it broke the country and the party, which is now full of crazies. On the morning of the result, my kids were watching Zootopia, about diversity and inclusion, and it was a gut punch the racist had won. I never thought the country would do this to itself. Since then Conservatives are literary calling themselves NatCs and endless upping the anti immigration popularist nonsense.