Comment on UK businesses still ‘reluctant to invest’ over Brexit and interest rates
jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months agoDo you know any farmers? Brexit has not been good to them and they are watching the deregulations of imports with great fear. They can not compete with the lower standards and much larger scale farming of outside Europe.
If you claim to care about animal welfare, you should be supporting British livestock farming, because in most places, animal welfare is much worse. Meat demand is not going away so you want to serve that demand with high standards.
The deregulation following Brexit has meant we are using pesticides now band in the EU. Just yesterday I was talking to someone who told me in their village, many of the bee hives died straight after a near by farm sprayed their fields. Our environmental records has got worse since Brexit. Sure Labour might up the standards, but when the Conservatives are back in, they will cut them again.
It is now not only harder and more expensive to export to the EU, but also import. And that’s before we acturally implement checks outside.
Please reference your sources when you link in graphs are claim to be referencing experts. Soures matter, for example, if it’s the Daily Mail, it’s almost certainly unreliable. If it’s The Guardian or Independent, it’s probably well researched.
No serious economist think Brexit has gone well. It has been worse for the UK than Covid and Russia’s war. I don’t where you are getting your economics.
I follow economics a bit as a long time listener of Tim Harper, Planet Money and Freakonimics. Read a few books on it. I’m not a expert, but I’m not the average either.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Yes, I work in agtech. There have been no deregulations of imports… Lots of scare stories about beef from Australia, but no one with half a brain thinks they would export beef here when they can get better prices in Asia
Nope. I support cultured meat and other protein sources.
The checks will never be implemented as per the TCA, why would they? We didn’t need checks before, we’re not the EU, we don’t need to use NTBs as protectionist weapons
I have provided sources on every link… they are either ons or world bank data dyor
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jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Australia, or where ever, will export where export it is profitable to do so. The problem is not just the lower meat standard, but the unfairness on British farmers still at a higher standard and unable to operate at the same scale. We need food security so can’t just let British farmers go to the wall.
I have high hopes of cultured meat, precision fermentation and vertical farms. I like to product most/all food outside of nature like this. Controlling input and outputs and return all that farm land to nature to fight climate change. But we aren’t there yet.
Maybe this a Lemmy thing, but your sources come to me as just an image link. There is no context of the article or paper they are from. To source properly, you should do the page link as well or instead of just the graph you want.
As for my own sources, literally just today’s Brexit import problem news : theguardian.com/…/uk-admits-extra-330m-a-year-cha…
First result of all the factors mentioned: inews.co.uk/…/uk-recession-wrong-economy-brexit-p…
To think Brexit is a success, you can’t be reading / listening to any of the same podcasts or newpapers as me.
bernieecclestoned@sh.itjust.works 11 months ago
Those import charges are a non tariff barrier on food imports, it makes imports more expensive relative to UK produce. It makes things like controlled environment and regenerative agriculture more feasible. Net good. Brexit benefit
Your inews link is from 2022. The UK did not enter a recession so the entire premise is invalid.
You are not listening. The ONS revised the GDP numbers, you are living in the past, the facts have changed, change your mind. Or fuck off, your choice
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jabjoe@feddit.uk 11 months ago
Yer, that “Lexit” (acturally Tory Brexit) has increased our product costs because some parts are from Germany without an equivalent. Trade barrier wasn’t the Brexit sold to many, though, yes was sold to others. All things to all people.
The links was 2022, and yes, things have been revised since then to be less bad. Still not good.
The reason I said to share links was exactly this. You didn’t share the “GDP growth in recent years” graph. Only the ones of the last few quarters. Really we’d want graphs from 2016 pre-result to current day. But a lazy search didn’t find one. Sure I’ve seen one, but can’t find it, so may as well not exist. Point is it accumulates, so the longer you look, the better picture you get.
It’s not just me and us Remoaners saying Brexit is bad. en.m.wikipedia.org/…/Economic_effects_of_Brexit
We’re a laughing stock, only it’s not fun when you live here.