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misk@sopuli.xyz 1 week agoConcept of anarchy in politics is pretty elusive, probably more so than utopian communism. The big difference being is that we tried anarchy and it ended up turning into some kind of feudalism in most places.
Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 days ago
When did we try anarchy?
misk@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
Anarchy is the default system before order forms. Everywhere you look that means some sort of feudalism. That’s why free market, anarchy, deregulation etc are seen by some leftists as means of returning to that kind of order. I’m aware of other anarchist schools of thought and I consider anarcho-syndicalism as possibly the only way to oppose current order. I don’t consider anarcho-syndicalism to be a form of anarchy though as it mentions methods of organising even in its name :)
Vodulas@beehaw.org 6 days ago
Anarchy is not the precursor to feudalism (and even feudalism as a concept is hotly debated among historians). That statement is also incredibly Eurocentric. The reality is there was a large variety of political and social structures around the world. Hell, just look at pre-colonial Native Americans and the huge variety in culture there
You are defining anarchy differently than a majority of people. And fine, whatever, but you are going to get in a lot of pointless arguments because you are coming at it with the incoreect notion that anarchy means chaos. Especially on a heavily leftist platform that has a lot of anarchists.
I recommend doing some reading and getting caught up on modern anarchist ideas instead of spouting that kind of nonsense. Hell, look into some anarchist societies and see what they are/were about. Also note that most of the non-extant ones are so because of state violence against them.
misk@sopuli.xyz 6 days ago
It might be anti intellectualism in me but there are philosophical works and then there is empirical evidence. Statehood emerges from feudalism / casteism / whatever pyramid describing social order you might want to draw. Yes, there are communities that walked a different path but they never aspired to statehood. Everywhere else power vacuum invites power hungry individuals who inevitably exploit the weakest first and work their way up from there. Libertarian anarchism is just neoliberalism with a gift wrapping.