Comment on Marc Rober shows why Tesla's camera-only self-driving system is dangerous
RickC137@lemmy.world 2 weeks agoAutopilot is not FSD and I bet many of the deaths were caused by inattentive drivers.
Which other system has a similar architecture and similar potential?
jj4211@lemmy.world 2 weeks ago
Autopilot is not FSD, but these scenarios are supposed to be within the capabilities of autopilot to react. There’s no indication that FSD is better equipped to handle these sorts of scenarios than autopilot. Many of the autopilot scenarios are the car plowing into a static obstacle head on. Yes the drivers should have been paying attention, but again, the point is autopilot even with all the updates simply fails to accurately model the environment even for what is should be considering easy.
In terms of comparative systems, I frankly don’t know. No one has a launched offering, and we only know Tesla’s as well as we do because they opt to use random drivers on public roads as guinea pigs, which isn’t great. But again, this video demonstrated “easy mode” scenarios where the Tesla failed and another car succeeded. But all that’s beside the point, it’s not like radar and lidar would preclude fsd either way. The video makes clear the theory and reality of better sensing technology and it can only improve the safety of a system. FSD with added radar and lidar would have greater capacity for safety than FSD with just cameras. The lidar might be forgiven for cheap cars historically, but the radar is bonkers to remove as those are put on some pretty low end cars. No one else wants to risk FSD like capability without lidar because they see it as too risky. It’s not that take knows some magic to make cameras safe, they just are willing to inflict bigger risk, and willing to try to argue “humans are deadly too” whereas competition doesn’t even want to try that debate.