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• Iunnrais@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  This is a statement I hear only from people who think “nazi” means “evil”, and don’t notice that their personal ideology is drifting closer to literal fascism, but since it’s their ideology, what they believe is right, that means it’s not evil. But nazi means evil, so nazi can’t possibly mean their new beliefs.

  But I assure you, it can. And it’s not scope-creep, it’s you-drift.

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  • cacheson@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    US conservatives used to actively distance themselves from nazis and fascists. That was before the Tea Party, which later morphed into MAGA. When a fascist movement became their key to power, they had to stop repudiating nazis and other fascists and start running interference for them.

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  • Spzi@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I guess you hit it.

    So on a more theoretical note: There are contexts in which the word lost it’s meaning. Some leftist groups are quite trigger happy with words usually reserved for the extreme right. I also heard in Russia, ‘Nazi’ has a different meaning than in the west, literally more “bad/evil”, a more general ‘enemy of Russia’.

    However;

    Just because someone used the word wrong doesnt mean …

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    • phillaholic@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I’d argue it’s regained its original meaning recently. 15-20 years ago we used to call people Grammar Nazis for correcting our spelling online. Now the people getting called Nazis have actual literal Third Reich style fascist beliefs. It’s more accurate now than in decades.

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      • barsoap@lemm.ee ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        Grammar Nazi was never an issue, completely distinct meaning. And it’s so over the top that you can’t really argue trivialisation, either.

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