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kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days agoIf your outcomes keep being unequal, you have two options:
- Concede that the opportunities weren’t as equal as you thought they were
- Convince yourself that the people with the worse outcomes are somehow inferior
I prefer the first solution.
Tamei@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I somewhat agree, but note that the inferiority you are describing is always only a relative measurement within the ruling system of economy, not necessarily some kind of (seemingly detached) moral measure which the connotation may imply.
That being said, I tend to the second option, acknowledging that capitalism, besides every other form of economy, is more of a challenge to some individuals than to others. But my initial statement persists.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
And you have no desire to change that?
Tamei@lemm.ee 3 days ago
I do, but I don’t think it can be eliminated in any economic system. But the best approach to try to in capitalism would be to provide equal opportunities to everyone and promoting a society where this concept is considered a virtue, not artificially steering or even inhibiting career trends.
By the way, this isn’t a discussion about compensation and overcompensation anymore. While compensation can be compared to E. o. Opportunity under those aspects, overcompensation can not be compared to E. o. Outcome in the same manner. The topic moved into a way more economic territitory than my initial statement intended to cover.
kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 days ago
The point is that you can’t do that. If you don’t intentionally try to correct for past (and current) societal discrimination, you’re effectively reducing or outright eliminating opportunities for people with certain kinds of marginalization.
The whole reason for there to be any compensation (regardless of whether you think it’s too much) is economic. If not for the economics, sure, it would be a lot less important to actively combat these disadvantages rather than letting them work themselves out over time, but capitalism ensures that they not only won’t solve themselves, they’ll self-propagate and become worse with time.
Likewise. I had a mindset very similar to the one you seem to at one point, so it’s been interesting trying to articulate the thoughts that changed my mind.