Comment on Voice actors speak out on AI in video games

• jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

  When I get a web search brain implant, I might stop relying on memory. Or better not.

  Blindly rejecting technology and automation, for some misguided interpretation of ethics like “work gives a man dignity”, or Gen 2:15, is the feudal corporate propaganda, to put it mildly.

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  • Umbrias@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

    Do you genuinely actually believe automation like llm or voice gen are being developed to free you from work? Nonsense. It’s meant to drive the relative value of your labor into the ground so that everyone can be paid less. you see it literally here, a career set you are simply saying shouldnt exist because a corporation can do it without a human getting economic benefit. You should read about the history of the luddites.

    The only blind ones here are those who uncritically accept corporate propaganda about technology and walk stupified towards the facade of a sci fi utopia. if you are going to claim that rejection of losing human artists as the barely viable profession it is is blind, at least put the effort in. Dont walk in and go “just like carriages lol” and try considering the issue for longer.

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    • jarfil@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

      I think automation only cares about increasing the output, not about the effort or exclusivity of the input. Since you propose reviewing history, let’s do it together:

      • Artists used to perform for a single patron, getting paid for each performance.
      • Amphitheaters allowed multiple patrons to attend each performance.
      • Recordings allowed performances to be reproduced over and over.
      • Copying allowed millions of patrons to reproduce the same recording multiple times, independently of each other.

      Now LLMs are suddenly the preposterous advance? Nonsense.

      Luddite propaganda is corporate propaganda is elitist propaganda, a step back towards less efficient ways of reaping the benefits of labor so it can be more easily controlled and restricted, an elitist approach where artists perform at the whim of someone wealthy enough to be able to afford them.

      If you want to discuss the fair compensation for labor, we can start talking about total production, compensation inequality, an UBI system, or whatever. Don’t come in blindly claiming that cutting down technological labor amplification, is the only way to get paid enough to live… or that getting paid is even required to live in a post-scarcity world, much less that artificially imposed scarcity is something positive.

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      • Umbrias@beehaw.org ⁨3⁩ ⁨weeks⁩ ago

        and now neural networks are suddenly the preposterous advance? Nonsense.

        voice generators and generative ai are built with the intent of replacing artists, your incredibly reductive “history lesson” funnily illustrates only situations distinct from the current situation and you gloss over making any specific claims about the technology, just broad vagary about the trajectories of technological advancement. I dont think you are equipped to discuss this topic honestly.

        luddites are corporate propaganda

        ??? actually just a plainly absurd statement. this isnt even worth responding to it’s so absurdly incorrect.

        Yes yes ubi, but “technological labor amplification” in this case is driving human artists out of the market. make specific claims, quit hiding behind vague generalizations about automation. it’s a waste of everyone’s time and terminates your train of thought before you get to something relevant.

        We can discuss further if you make an effort to understand this topic, but so far you are just speaking largely in cliches that arent worth responding to and arent worth your time writing.

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