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I understand that’s how it should work. You don’t seem to understand how things actually work in a reality run by capitalists.

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Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
Lol again, they’re not labor. They don’t have anything to do with the traditional capitalist-labor relationships. I am well aware of the reality you describe and I can still tell you, it doesn’t apply here. Cutting edge chipmakers are the golden goose of the digital age. For best reference, see anything about the US’ extreme efforts in collecting rocket scientists after world war 2. Capitalists know a golden goose when they see one.

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- surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
  I’m gonna make this real simple for you: If you do not control capital, you are a laborer under capitalists. Yes, that includes white collar engineers and scientists- not simply blue collar assembly line workers.
  
  We don’t even need to speak in hypotheticals. Just look at the engineers brought in for big tech under h1b’s. We have people here who can do this work. They would prefer to import the labor under one of these programs, because it makes them easier to exploit, and afraid to quit abusive employers.
  
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  - Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    Nah. I get it, but no.
    
    We have people here who can do this work
    
    This is the one thing you keep missing. We don’t have people here who can do the work. Straight up. All the big players send their engineers to learn from TSMC for a reason. Of all the labor, of all the capital, these people are the exceptions to every rule.
    
    Capitalists went to extreme lengths to win the nuclear arms race. They will go to the same lengths to keep winning the digital arms race too. These engineers will never be billionaires in their brains alone - because you’re right, they do not own the capital - but they do have a significantly higher value than any other laborers in the eyes of capitalists and therefore will never be deported to a rival.
    
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    surph_ninja@lemmy.world ⁨1⁩ ⁨year⁩ ago
    So to clarify, you do not believe US engineers could ever do this? Why do you believe this is a skillset that only exists in Taiwan?
    
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