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• MudMan@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

  You... literally said

  The reality is probably that the movies have nothing political in them other than the joke about Reagan which likely actually wasn’t meant to be a real critique

  It's right there, I'm looking at it.

  I am now more curious to know how you think this works. Like, you think there's a political take in some art, but not in all art, so there's a line somewhere between explicit and implicit political stuff, I suppose?

  Or is the confusion that you thought I understood you as advocating for no politics in art instead? Because that's not what I'm saying.

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  • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

    I claimed 3 movies likely aren’t political. You extrapolated that to all movies. I’m done here

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    • MudMan@kbin.social ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

      I think you're maybe mixing up "being political" with "being propagandistic". Those aren't the same thing.

      BTTF or Guardians 3 are political in that they have a built-in political view. They're movies where reality is painted from a specific perspective and lines up with a certain worldview. They're not selling you on that perspective actively, it's built into the narrative as a framing, consicous or subsconscious (it's more subconscious in BTTF, more conscious in G3).

      Die Hard is a bit of a different beast there. It may not be outright propagandistic or jingoistic, but it sure is flirting with that borderline there.

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      • SnowdenHeroOfOurTime@unilem.org ⁨8⁩ ⁨months⁩ ago

        I absolutely agree that politics can be subtle and unintentional but to classify a movie with the word “political” as a topic unto itself implies an intentionally present political message.

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